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Minimum wage simply sets the minimum amount to be paid. It's a starting point for negotiation.
The problem is the supply of people is to high. We live in a supply and demand economy. As long as Fred is willing to do the job for a dollar less than Wilma, Fred will get the job. We have too many people in this country willing to take that minimum wage (then grumble about it of course.) Immigration is also a factor in this. They may not be taking the Walmart jobs, but they are taking the unskilled labor jobs (that pay under the table or look the other way) and forcing more people into Walmart jobs. The loss of American manufacturing has also driven many workers into low paying jobs. In some cities, Walmart is all that is left.
If we want to fix this problem, we need to stop having multiple kids per parent, start holding employers responsible for hiring illegal aliens, and focus on buying "American Made" products. We need to stop buying cheap Chinese junk and bring back a market for American products.
We have the ability to change this, but not the will. Stop blaming Walmart and start looking inward.
You can't negotiate wages when you are applying for a low paying job, Walmart and McDonald's don't negotiate your wage, they tell you what they will pay and you take it or leave it. Buy American products, go try to find a pair of pants that are made in the US, or a child's toy, or pretty much anything - the few items that are made in the US are pretty much boutique merchandise that cost far more than most people can afford. The average family consists of 3.14 persons in 2017, down from 3.7 in the sixties. This is reflected in the decrease of children in family households overall.
What we need to do is bring back labor unions, without them you have zero power to negotiate anything, and no way to defend yourself in the case of wrongful termination.
Walmart pays ABOVE typical big box. Not by much but they are minimum $11.00. The two old ladies that live above me do. They do not mind it. Many other jobs are in the $9.50 to $10.00 range.
You want $15. Work for Amazon. You will run back to Walmart once Amazon sticks that GPS on you.
Walmart pays ABOVE typical big box. Not by much but they are minimum $11.00. The two old ladies that live above me do. They do not mind it. Many other jobs are in the $9.50 to $10.00 range.
You want $15. Work for Amazon. You will run back to Walmart once Amazon sticks that GPS on you.
Folks, the supposed wealthiest country in the world where people work for peanuts.
It's not that easy to work your way into management in these companies. It's real common for the store manager to bring in his nephew with his shiny new community college diploma and give him the promotion that employees have been working toward for years. And not everyone is as clever, brilliant and well educated as you, but they still deserve our respect, they get up every day and go to a crappy job and that isn't always easy when you see that you will probably never have enough savings to pay for your kids dental work.
LOL nope. Corp or the DM make most of those decisions.
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It's unlikely that if you work at Walmart you work 40 hours a week, 69% of their workers are part time and it's not as easy as you seem to think it is to juggle two jobs. In low paying jobs hours are changed weekly so it becomes difficult if not impossible to find a second job where the employer will give you hours that coincide with your Walmart schedule.
I have two jobs. One is part time. I know lots of people doing just as me. We all have set hours in both jobs. In the part time job, I give up benefits but I tell them outright what my schedule needs to be. As long as it involves weekend hours, the schedule is set. I have had the same hours at my part time job since 2011. Big box store. Even the newbs get set hours as long as they are willing to work weekends.
Managers like it because setting a basic schedule means they can pair up people who always show with people who are iffy to assure coverage.
Minimum wage simply sets the minimum amount to be paid. It's a starting point for negotiation.
The problem is the supply of people is to high. We live in a supply and demand economy. As long as Fred is willing to do the job for a dollar less than Wilma, Fred will get the job. We have too many people in this country willing to take that minimum wage (then grumble about it of course.) Immigration is also a factor in this. They may not be taking the Walmart jobs, but they are taking the unskilled labor jobs (that pay under the table or look the other way) and forcing more people into Walmart jobs. The loss of American manufacturing has also driven many workers into low paying jobs. In some cities, Walmart is all that is left.
If we want to fix this problem, we need to stop having multiple kids per parent, start holding employers responsible for hiring illegal aliens, and focus on buying "American Made" products. We need to stop buying cheap Chinese junk and bring back a market for American products.
We have the ability to change this, but not the will. Stop blaming Walmart and start looking inward.
Mostly it criminalizes/outlaws any skill set that doesnt meet the criteria for the min.wage.
Honestly even the mainstream economists get this.
Wage laws come at the expense of overall employment and job creation.
No easy solutions. Anyone with a functioning brain knows that Socialism doesn't work. But the gap between the haves and have nots is much worse than it used to be.
Maybe but most have nots in America do have a lot compared to other countries and years ago in America.
You can't negotiate wages when you are applying for a low paying job, Walmart and McDonald's don't negotiate your wage, they tell you what they will pay and you take it or leave it. Buy American products, go try to find a pair of pants that are made in the US, or a child's toy, or pretty much anything - the few items that are made in the US are pretty much boutique merchandise that cost far more than most people can afford. The average family consists of 3.14 persons in 2017, down from 3.7 in the sixties. This is reflected in the decrease of children in family households overall.
What we need to do is bring back labor unions, without them you have zero power to negotiate anything, and no way to defend yourself in the case of wrongful termination.
This was my point. As long as there is an abundance of labor, there is no need for employers to negotiate. Big box stores around here are having trouble keeping workers because another big box store moved in. There is a blue-collar labor shortage in my area. The employers here are having to raise wages (or offer benefits) to get retail employees. However, the white collar market is over-saturated, so it is difficult to secure an office job without extensive credentials.
I support my local grocers rather than buy from Walmart. I buy locally sourced food when I can find it. And yes, American Made is more expensive, but I know the ultimate cost of not paying that price.
Does 3.14 persons per family include single parent homes? That is where the Walmart type jobs really matter:
"In 2016, 42 percent of children living in single-mother families were impoverished, compared with 8 percent of children living in married-couple families." https://www.childtrends.org/indicato...ren-in-poverty
Unions are great until the scabs show up. If enough Freds cross the picket line, the Wilmas will not be employed.
It's really quite simple, if Walmart is not paying a living wage then taxpayers will be on the hook for medicaid, food stamps, affordable housing, the works.
It doesn't have to be that way. People should just simply live within their means. Live with a roommate or two, don't smoke or drink, spend sparingly, don't have kids you can't afford to raise, etc.
I am a first year teacher with a masters degree making $38,098... So a kid under this plan thats putting cans on a shelf with his GED would be making $31,200... I would have been better off financially to not make myself better and started at WalMart the day after I finished high school..
Walmart has incredibly thin profit margins. They have 1.5 million works in the US, and made $13 billion in profits. That means roughly $8,600 in profits per employee, with wages at $10-11 an hour. A $4.50 an hour raise for 1.5 million people would make them completely unprofitable.
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