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Old 11-26-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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Macron is a true believer in the carbon killing us all and has added a carbon tax to all fuel in France, and it's now around $6-$7 a gallon. Hence commerce is almost impossible and rioting is in full force. This unholy alliance over the climate and carbon taxes has an agenda the end of capitalism the promotion of globalism for all the lefties out there. The media cooperates by sending another polar bear downstream on a tiny chunk of ice holding a cardboard sign.........

 
Old 11-26-2018, 10:46 AM
 
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Which is fine for people living and working in the city but what are commuters supposed to do?
 
Old 11-26-2018, 11:06 AM
 
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Macron is a true believer in the carbon killing us all and has added a carbon tax to all fuel in France, and it's now around $6-$7 a gallon. Hence commerce is almost impossible and rioting is in full force. This unholy alliance over the climate and carbon taxes has an agenda the end of capitalism the promotion of globalism for all the lefties out there. The media cooperates by sending another polar bear downstream on a tiny chunk of ice holding a cardboard sign.........
Whooo! Go France! They're actually doing something! This is one of the few things that gives me hope for humanity. I don't know if it'll even be a positive thing overall. They point is they're trying something. When you're dealing with stuff as unpredictable, and yet dangerous as climate change, you're kind of taking gambles everywhere you go. Some people expect some kind of paternal government organization to know everything about the future, and be able to tell us exactly what to do so that profits are maximized, and that's just not going to happen. The goal is to stop human extinction, more or less, and the screwing over of the planet. The planet's not going to be helped by merely adapting to a changing environment. To help the planet, you have to reduce the changes, or at least invent new technologies to help deal with that. I figure, either this sort of thing, or pouring lots more investment into new technologies are good paths. I don't know which is better...so I figure this is good enough. This'll probably help spur those environmentally friendly technologies along anyway.
 
Old 11-26-2018, 11:08 AM
 
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Which is fine for people living and working in the city but what are commuters supposed to do?
I don't know. Screw 'em. I'm more of a big picture kind a' guy. Presumably they'll think up some solution.
 
Old 11-26-2018, 11:13 AM
 
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Whooo! Go France! They're actually doing something! This is one of the few things that gives me hope for humanity. I don't know if it'll even be a positive thing overall. They point is they're trying something. When you're dealing with stuff as unpredictable, and yet dangerous as climate change, you're kind of taking gambles everywhere you go. Some people expect some kind of paternal government organization to know everything about the future, and be able to tell us exactly what to do so that profits are maximized, and that's just not going to happen. The goal is to stop human extinction, more or less, and the screwing over of the planet. The planet's not going to be helped by merely adapting to a changing environment. To help the planet, you have to reduce the changes, or at least invent new technologies to help deal with that. I figure, either this sort of thing, or pouring lots more investment into new technologies are good paths. I don't know which is better...so I figure this is good enough. This'll probably help spur those environmentally friendly technologies along anyway.
i've never seen the wisdom in this 'do something, no matter how stupid it is' attitude.
 
Old 11-26-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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I don't know. Screw 'em. I'm more of a big picture kind a' guy. Presumably they'll think up some solution.
You should go into politics!
 
Old 11-26-2018, 11:40 AM
 
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i've never seen the wisdom in this 'do something, no matter how stupid it is' attitude.
I don't see it as a particularly unsafe route. It'll inevitably be a change people will have to make at some point anyway. Even if global warming isn't raising temperatures as much as people think, it'll still be causing some increases. Building a new type of cleaner environment will spur inventiveness relating to how to better get by in it, as well as technologies that help with that sort of thing, and the sooner that happens, the better, given how expensive clean energy can be, and how many developing nations are arising and industrializing.

Right now we're building a culture, and inventions, centering around soon-to-be obsolete fossil fuels. We're just wasting energy and resources on stuff we'll need to get rid of in a few decades.
 
Old 11-26-2018, 11:42 AM
 
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I think other countries should emulate this, also we should put a large tax on all beef and pork (factory farming is a big source of carbon emissions).

IMO, it's time to phase out the use of plastics, the eating of meat (especially those from factory farms), driving your car frivolously, etc.
 
Old 11-26-2018, 11:44 AM
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Wow. Just like what happened in Haiti when their former prime minister raised the gas tax. But his reason was he was trying to secure a loan from the IMF to get money to improve the island's infrastructure.

Personally, I think that the developed countries need to find a way to persuade Brazil from cutting down the Amazon rain forest to turn it into farm lands. IMO that's the greater threat to our planet's climate.
 
Old 11-26-2018, 11:58 AM
 
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Macron is a true believer in the carbon killing us all and has added a carbon tax to all fuel in France, and it's now around $6-$7 a gallon. Hence commerce is almost impossible and rioting is in full force. This unholy alliance over the climate and carbon taxes has an agenda the end of capitalism the promotion of globalism for all the lefties out there. The media cooperates by sending another polar bear downstream on a tiny chunk of ice holding a cardboard sign.........



Meanwhile, 100s of billions price tag so far (in this country), with much more to come in the future


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/c...te-report.html
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