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Old 12-05-2018, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Then lobby to get them changed.

Not so easy, but more effective than complaining about it on CD.
So, asking a question is now "complaining about it" ?
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Why do we allow Big Government to impose these silly restrictions on us? In some states, we even allow government to sell liquor. Other states have government supported monopolies or near monopolies on liquor distribution.
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Indiana only lets gas stations sell beer if the beverages are warm. Ohio bans alcohol ads from featuring Santa Claus (and many states stop alcohol sales on Christmas). In Utah, mini liquor bottles are banned, but in Washington, D.C., purchasers must buy six at a time.

https://reason.com/blog/2018/12/05/r...b2o__bPsXc107M

In 2015, the Confederated Tribes of the Chehalis
Reservation in Washington State attempted to open a
distillery on their land, only to be rebuffed. They and
others have tried to pressure Congress to scrap this
outdated and offensive law but, so far, to no avail.4

https://www.rstreet.org/wp-content/u...k-Laws-1-1.pdf
I'm not so sure mini liquor bottles are still banned (I could be wrong).

Alcohol's had a checkered history with government relation and it's reflected in the varying policies among the states.

It's pretty clear that religious influence has a heavy say in liquor regulation and reinforces a lot of economic chaff in the liquor industry.

For instance, in Illinois, you can buy a bottle of liquor in CVS at any time. Last call for bar is around 1-2am.

In Georgia, and much of the South, liquor is only obtainable through state-run retail outlets (dumb....).

In Utah, there's an extensive amount of regulation on liquor sales ranging from an expensive application processes for a liquor license to those STUPID signs "This establishment is A BAR (<- actually in all caps" that denote differences between a bar and restaurant.

So... Liquor laws are less so controlled on a federal level and those legislative powers have been relegated to the states and, you have before you, a chaotic sea of differing levels of liquor control.



Interestingly, it seems like wine and beer tend to skirt around a lot of laws. Liquor seems to be the most heavily regulated.

...Which is odd. Why are they treated differently? Sure, one gets you drunker w/ higher alcohol concentration but the usage is pretty similar.
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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Look at the lottery racket the government has going. They get the revenue and then they tax the winnings on the game they are already profiting from and they taxed all the money that was used to buy the tickets. When we figure how that works we can tackle alcohol.
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Look at the lottery racket the government has going. They get the revenue and then they tax the winnings on the game they are already profiting from and they taxed all the money that was used to buy the tickets. When we figure how that works we can tackle alcohol.
It counts as income.

It's not exactly double taxation since lottery tickets aren't taxed.

I do wonder how those orgs are funded though.

If they're funded with revenues from the game, fine.

If they're funded via some other tax mechanism, there may be some double taxation conflict.
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Wow--a lot of closet AnCaps on this thread. I like it!
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:57 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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The roots of these archaic draconian laws are embedded deep in religion.
This.

Utah only allows beer with a maximum ABV content of 3.2% in grocery or convenience stores. Everything else has to be bought from state liquor stores which have very inconvenient hours. They also have to have bartenders go behind an "zion curtain" to pour mixed drinks. Apparently the LDS church believes that people will be "tainted" by watching a bartender pour a mixed drink. Oklahoma had similar laws because of Southern Baptist influence but they were finally repealed in October of this year. I never thought I would see the day.
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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In Georgia, and much of the South, liquor is only obtainable through state-run retail outlets (dumb....).
Not true. Here are the states that require ABC stores;


Alabama
Idaho
New Hampshire (sold tax-free, attracting many out-of-state customers)
North Carolina (stores are run by individual counties and cities)
Pennsylvania
Utah
Virginia
Washington

https://www.thekitchn.com/buying-liq...private-141292
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Old 12-05-2018, 01:01 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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If you don't like the liquor laws, stop voting for the people who wrote and passed them.

Easy Peasy.
Considering the fact that most of these restrictive laws were put into place directly after prohibition as a way to try to appease the dry movement by making liquor more difficult to obtain, voting them out will be kind of difficult. After all, few people who were around back then are still with us today.
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Old 12-05-2018, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I've been amazed in my travels in the US how weird liquor laws are.

Until about a year ago, Walmart and some other stores in Arkansas were only allowed to sell Arkansas made wine. Um, yuck.

There's a state in New England (sorry, forget which one) where you can either buy beer OR hard liquor at the liquor stores. So you buy beer, go out to your car, put it in, come back in the store to buy the rest of what you want. And that's what the clerks tell you to do.

What in the world?
Costco is the largest wine retailer in the US. It sells plenty of cheap wine and is the largest importer of high-end French wine in the world. It easily moves cases of $1000+ bottles of wine.

While looking for the makings for margaritas in Florida, I was surprised to learn that hard alcohol had to be sold in space separate from the retail warehouse store. What's that about?
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Old 12-05-2018, 01:08 PM
 
Location: North America
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Most of those people are dead. Not so easy peasy.

BTW, I have never knowingly voted for somebody who passed these laws.
Do your homework on their voting record. Then lobby the hell out of them.
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