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Old 12-06-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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that is because liberal new jersey does not require e-verify..liberals have fought it tooth and nail
Have they forbidden the use of it? If not, then don't blame the liberals because the club made a choice not to use it.

The bottom line is, Trump needs to clean up his own house before he goes after everyone else.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Prove they did not use e-verify.
NYT could not find a match on any data base. Obviously, eVerify was not being used.

The taxpayer ID does not correspond to the format of numbers used on legitimate IDs.

Employee claims at least 2 supervisors were aware and took steps to help workers evade detection.

Why does Trump Org hire people who do not speak English? That in itself would be a tip off.

Given NYT saw her historical pay stubs I wish they would have published her wage, over the years.

Of course, no one would expect Trump to personally vett employees via eVerify. Given his very public remarks about illegal immigrants, one would think Trump Org would have made absolutely certain every single employee was legal to avoid embarrassing him.

Then again, Trump Org has a long history of using H2 b visas to legally hire foreign workers instead of hiring citizens. Palm Beach County ( Maralago) has made clear there are hundreds of people in the county who need jobs like the ones at Trump properties.

The woman who disclosed to the NYT ( via an interpreter, given her lack of English) does not live in the vicinity of the golf club and car pools with others.

Trump Org obviously chooses to not pay a locally competitive wage.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:56 PM
 
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Have they forbidden the use of it? If not, then don't blame the liberals because the club made a choice not to use it.

The bottom line is, Trump needs to clean up his own house before he goes after everyone else.
I do agree with you there. He needs to set an example and implement e-verify in all his enterprises. Of course then he will be called a racist and be bombarded with lawsuits. But again thats par for course with him.
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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everify does not catch all..especially if someone uses someone else's ID
Actually, it effective 90% + of the time.

That NYT was able to easily discern there was no match makes clear Trump Org never tried.

That NYT was able to spot the number does not correspond to the format of numbers used in legitimate IDs makes clear Trump Org HR does not concern themselves with details like this.
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:08 PM
 
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Do you wake up thinking about Trump? Do you sleep and dream about him? This daily obsession on the president is very creepy around here. “Trump wasn’t singing at the funeral, OMG I’m outraged!!”
He's just so news worthy by giving us so much fodder to work with! LOL And who said anything about him singing at a funeral?
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:11 PM
 
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Do you wake up thinking about Trump? Do you sleep and dream about him? This daily obsession on the president is very creepy around here. “Trump wasn’t singing at the funeral, OMG I’m outraged!!”
Put a sock in it! The guy has made his veritable bones with his retarded base upon the threat of deporting every single one of these undocumented aliens even though it was well known he used them for decades both building and servicing his hotels and other commercial properties.

If there is one thing consistant in all of this phony crappola it's: Trump lies and idiots believe him.
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:11 PM
 
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One again, she is NOT a direct employee of Trump or his household; why do the usual panderers to class-consciousness and irrational hatreds repeatedly try to pander to these prejudices? Because they know the mindset to which they're pandering!
She was an employee of Trump Org. Can you guess who the beneficiaries of Trump Org are?
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Did you read the article? The NJ club does not use e-verify.
He has previously claimed his properties use eVerify. He likely believed this to be true. Too bad no one in Trump Org thought to verify his remarks.

The supervisor in housekeeping is not vetting the eligibility of housekeepers. This is a management problem.
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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Why does Trump Org hire people who do not speak English? That in itself would be a tip off.
Now, now, cant assume illegal status because of a lack of the English language. That does not indicate one is illegal.


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Of course, no one would expect Trump to personally vett employees via eVerify. Given his very public remarks about illegal immigrants, one would think Trump Org would have made absolutely certain every single employee was legal to avoid embarrassing him.
With that many employees I would imagine it almost impossible to guarantee everyone is and stays decent and honest.
I was talking with my nephew about the troops sent to the US/Mexican border and he said one from Fort Bragg where he is stationed got caught helping the invaders cross the border. One would think the US military would have made absolutely certain every soldier was loyal to this country to avoid embarrassment.

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Then again, Trump Org has a long history of using H2 b visas to legally hire foreign workers instead of hiring citizens. Palm Beach County ( Maralago) has made clear there are hundreds of people in the county who need jobs like the ones at Trump properties.
Its not illegal to use H2 b visa workers. The program is designed to provide seasonal nonagricultural workers. I'm pretty sure there are hundreds of people in Palm Beach County that can maintain a home/family on seasonal work in Palm Beach County.

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The woman who disclosed to the NYT ( via an interpreter, given her lack of English) does not live in the vicinity of the golf club and car pools with others.

Trump Org obviously chooses to not pay a locally competitive wage.
They pay 13, started at 10 which was higher than the 8.25 she made at a hotel and the minimum wage in NJ.
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Congress has yet to pass any legislation requiring business to check out new hires more thoroughly. Maybe e-verify did return a no match but the two crooked supervisors looked the other way.

As stated most CEO's dont hire directly. From the article:There is no evidence that Mr. Trump or Trump Organization executives knew of their immigration status. But at least two supervisors at the club were aware of it, the women said, and took steps to help workers evade detection and keep their jobs.

I hope they are fired.
Housekeeping supervisors don’t vett employees.

The lack of vetting is a management problem.
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