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Old 12-07-2018, 06:29 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Removing the job incentives will only deter the jobs seekers and even at that just as long as their kids are given our birthright citizenship and benefits they will still come, thus the wall. Criminals, terrorists and the drug cartels aren't looking for any of the above, thus the wall.

Drug cartels make enough $$$ to buy some rather expensive aircraft for one way trips into the US where the aircraft are simply discarded. A wall will do WHAT to stop that?
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Geez, for the umpteenth time Trump does not hire manual laborers himself! No such thing as an undocumented worker either they are illegal aliens. Trump has never been personally fined for hiring illegal aliens because he hasn't! So no, he's not a hypocrite! The Trump organization came out with a statement yesterday that when it's discovered that an illegal alien provided fake documents and were caught at it they are fired. Get a grip!
Stop lying. Did you read the link about the Polish workers trump paid $4 an hour to? He has a history of this going back decades.

You people will hold him responsible for nothing. Like an abused dog continuing to seek approval from his master. I'd feel sorry for you if your cheeto jesus weren't ruining our country.
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:35 AM
 
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Why does Trump Org hire people who do not speak English? That in itself would be a tip off.
Imagine the outrage if Trump's Organization looked closely into employees and prospects because they do not speak English. Or if they wouldn't hire people who don't speak English well for positions where it does not matter.
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:52 AM
 
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Stop lying. Did you read the link about the Polish workers trump paid $4 an hour to? He has a history of this going back decades.

You people will hold him responsible for nothing. Like an abused dog continuing to seek approval from his master. I'd feel sorry for you if your cheeto jesus weren't ruining our country.

Don't you ever call me a liar again or you'll be reported! How many times does it have to be repeated that Trump doesn't "personally" hire manual laborers? So no, he himself did not pay illegal workers $4 bucks and hour and there is no proof that he had any knowledge of it. Apparently those in his organization did thus the lawsuit. It's not unusual for cases to be settled out of court either. Now go away if you're going to continue to be insulting!
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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you think trump or any ceo hires/fires labor staff??


plus, she lied about being documented
Don't bother with facts..liberals never rely on facts, only overly emotional whining to make their point.
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Geez, for the umpteenth time Trump does not hire manual laborers himself! No such thing as an undocumented worker either they are illegal aliens. Trump has never been personally fined for hiring illegal aliens because he hasn't! So no, he's not a hypocrite! The Trump organization came out with a statement yesterday that when it's discovered that an illegal alien provided fake documents and were caught at it they are fired. Get a grip!
It’s his organization. He sets the tone at the top.

Given his position on illegal immigration and his claims that Trump Org uses eVerify, it is reasonable to think Trump Org would make sure its actions were and remain consistent with his words to avoid embarrassing the owner who happens to be POTUS.

There is no reason for any employer to not use eVerify unless they don’t want to know.

Furthermore, there is no valid reason for Trump Org to apply for and rely on legal H2B visa workers.

It right up there with his consistent opposition to Chain Migration all the while, Melana’s sister and parents had Green Cards and her parents became naturalized citizens.
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:31 AM
 
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Stop lying. Did you read the link about the Polish workers trump paid $4 an hour to? He has a history of this going back decades.

You people will hold him responsible for nothing. Like an abused dog continuing to seek approval from his master. I'd feel sorry for you if your cheeto jesus weren't ruining our country.
To get the votes of Hispanics Obama promised that he would address this issue in his first year. He did not. He did nothing. He did the opposite. Who held him accountable?

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...igration-obama

My post is not done to deflect from Trump. I already commented on that but to show that few hold "their guy" responsible for anything and then can't understand why the other side does the same.
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:33 AM
 
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Tonight I went to eat at a Mexican restaurant for dinner in a town with a lot of Hispanics.

I guess I supported illegal immigration by eating at a Mexican restaurant . Welp,amnesty for all I guess
Are restaurants that serve "Mexican" food illegal?
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:42 AM
 
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It’s his organization. He sets the tone at the top.

Given his position on illegal immigration and his claims that Trump Org uses eVerify, it is reasonable to think Trump Org would make sure its actions were and remain consistent with his words to avoid embarrassing the owner who happens to be POTUS.

There is no reason for any employer to not use eVerify unless they don’t want to know.

Furthermore, there is no valid reason for Trump Org to apply for and rely on legal H2B visa workers.

It right up there with his consistent opposition to Chain Migration all the while, Melana’s sister and parents had Green Cards and her parents became naturalized citizens.

Except there is no proof that he told those under him to hire illegal aliens and I'm sure some of the work was contracted out which makes the contractor responsible for hiring legal workers, not Trump or his organization. Where is your proof that he set the tone to hire illegal aliens? There have been many cases where employers have been accused of hiring illegal aliens when it was their personnel dept. that looked the other way when employees were screened for hiring. Illegal aliens use very authentic looking documents to get hired also which is evidenced by what this Guatamalan illegal alien did.


In New Jersey there is no state mandate to use e-verify. However, Trump's organization did use it in the states that mandated it. So no, the claims were not lies. How do you know that there weren't valid reasons to use the H2B visas? Why were those visas used if the Trump organization could just hire illegal workers instead? You're not making any sense.


Chain migration should only be allowed where the immigrants can support themselves. Do you actually think that Melania's family couldn't do that and that they'd be on the public dole instead? What does that have to do with the subject at hand anyway?
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I mean - do you honestly think this woman here illegally put that on her employment application.


She's an illegal alien. A criminal. Of course she lied.
All illegal immigrants lie about their legal status.

This is why tens of thousands of employers use eVerify, regardless of state laws requiring them to do so and the intended loopholes in those states with mandates. They seek to avoid the public relations embarrassment associated with employing illegal aliens.

There is no reasonable reason for any employer to not use EVerify beyond they don’t want to know.

In this case, the housekeeper’s documentation was an obvious fake as the numbers did not follow a legitimate format. Heck, if an employer does not want to be bothered, no shortage of businesses will do the appropriate background check and employment verification as a fee for service.

Instead of first taking all reasonable measures, make eVerify mandatory- no loopholes, let’s borrow from China and spend $ bajillions on a “ Trump Wall”.
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