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View Poll Results: Should we give alcohol prohibition another whirl in 2019?
Yes 3 12.00%
No, but run some pilot projects and studies to see how it goes, then maybe reinstate prohibition. 2 8.00%
No. 19 76.00%
Other (please explain below). 1 4.00%
Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-22-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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It is a cliché to say that "prohibition didn't work." In many ways, it did!
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...alcohol consumption declined dramatically during Prohibition. Cirrhosis death rates for men were 29.5 per 100,000 in 1911 and 10.7 in 1929. Admissions to state mental hospitals for alcoholic psychosis declined from 10.1 per 100,000 in 1919 to 4.7 in 1928.
It's often forgotten that prohibition was a progressive initiative. Yes, there was input from religious folk, but the real leaders and doers were progressives. Susan B. Anthony is mostly known for women's suffrage, but she also led on prohibition.

A housewife named Mary Hunt started a movement called "scientific temperance" that promoted academic analysis. The progressives of the 19th-early 20th century, just as today, were big on looking at issues scientifically/intellectually.

In 1830, per capita alcohol consumption was an alarming 7.1 gallons per year. The number could be doubled, since most women drank little or nothing. But it was women who bore the brunt of their husbands' drinking. It could be said that prohibition was the godmother of feminism.

By 1851, the 'Maine Law' was passed to ban the sale of alcohol. By 1855, 13 of 30 states had similar laws. The 18th Amendment in 1919 was just a culmination of a long process.

The biggest problem with prohibition was weak enforcement. By 1930 there were 700 'speakeasies' in DC alone. This could have been addressed, but instead we threw out the baby with the bathwater. Should it give it another whirl 100 years later?
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Old 12-22-2018, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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No thanks.
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Old 12-22-2018, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Property rights are absolute. End of discussion.

* This is the 2nd time today I've had to write this exact same post. Other being the gun thread.
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Old 12-22-2018, 03:31 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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travis t's proposals:

1) repeal the 2nd Amendment and confiscate all firearms
2) reenact Prohibition

What's next week's proposal?
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Old 12-22-2018, 03:32 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Originally Posted by North Beach Person View Post
travis t's proposals:

1) repeal the 2nd Amendment and confiscate all firearms
2) reenact Prohibition

What's next week's proposal?
I believe it’s the second prohibition thread he’s posted, too.

Something something create division with a scripted thread using false equivalencies and bolded trigger-words.
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Old 12-22-2018, 03:33 PM
 
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we are already in a "soft" prohibition.
21, not 18. Utah's going for .05 BAC.
working on it around the edges.
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Old 12-22-2018, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Originally Posted by North Beach Person View Post
travis t's proposals:

1) repeal the 2nd Amendment and confiscate all firearms
2) reenact Prohibition

What's next week's proposal?
Yellow Stars of David on the armbands of Jews?
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Old 12-22-2018, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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I believe it’s the second prohibition thread he’s posted, too.

Something something create division with a scripted thread using false equivalencies and bolded trigger-words.
Wrong, the other thread was more about the issue of date rape and alcohol. This one is entirely different. If you have nothing to say about the topic other than nebulous criticisms, and false claims of being able to read my mind over the internet, why even respond?
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Old 12-22-2018, 03:44 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Wrong, the other thread was more about the issue of date rape and alcohol. This one is entirely different. If you have nothing to say about the topic other than nebulous criticisms, and false claims of being able to read my mind over the internet, why even respond?
It’s the truth, and if you can’t handle it, you can just as easily abstain from posting as well.

It’s obvious what the intentions of a thread are when they read like bullet-points from a writing guide (or did you just accidentally bold “progressives” and “scientifically/intellectually”?).

It’s hardly “mind reading” when one looks through another poster’s history and discovers obvious patterns.
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Old 12-22-2018, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Yellow Stars of David on the armbands of Jews?
Huh? What has that got to do with this thread. I am non-religious, but also basically a Judeophile. See my posts on the thread about Alice Walker.
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