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A multi billion dollar wall built from our tax dollars is being proposed by Republicans and no, Mexico is not going to pay for it as promised by the president. Yet another broken promise and outright lie by him.
How effective will a wall be when you can just dig under it?
How effective will a wall be when you can just get a ladder?
How effective will a wall be when you have people who are extreamly motivated because they are extreamly desperate with little to lose who have shovels and bare hands to dig with and smart brains to overcome obstacles with?
Just read this article today:
30 unaccompanied children were among 376 migrants who tunneled under border wall into Arizona | Fox News
OP - Do you have a door on your house? Does it have a lock on it? You know, a determined burglar will find a way to get in, so why don't you just leave your door open, or maybe just remove it? After all, it is not 100% effective.
Do you lock the door on your house of only walls without a roof? Is this border wall going to have a dome over it covering our country?
It's all been covered repeatedly. The factual results showing that where walls have been strengthened (San Diego, Yuma, El Paso) the result has been 90% reduction in illegal apprehensions and associated crime. The factual results of the last mass caravan in November in which 5000-7000 migrants arrived in Tijuana with the aim of crossing immediately into America yet up to 5000 are still in Tijuana now because of the barriers in that section. The fact that 90% of border patrol agents - the boots on the ground that would know - says that the wall would be an effective tool in their mission.
Not sure we have the patience or inclination to "wipe the slate clean" and start over. Needless to say you are right. It's all been covered repeatedly, so why the debate do you think? Why are the border states typically not aligned with Trump on this, or for Trump in general? The answer to that question is worth some consideration I think. It begins with the premise that Trump, you and Trump supporters seem to assume.
The premise is that our illegal immigration problems are serious enough to erect a big wall and spend $5 billion dollars to do it.
Walls work. Yes of course, but to what extent does Trump's wall work to mitigate the problems Trump likes to highlight? The drugs, drug dealers, rapists and murderers? Of course the border patrol agents think a wall would work, because of course they do, but do they believe we will no longer have the problem of illegal immigrants, drugs, drug dealers, rapists and murders after all that money is spent, after Trump's wall is built (compared to what else we should do)? Will those problems go away enough so that average Americans will notice the difference?
Where's that analysis? You think border patrol agents have those sorts of answers? Of course not...
Do Trump, you and Trump's supporters have ANY sense of what negatives and/or shortfalls Trump's wall also represents? Besides just the cost. What of the pros and cons? Any cons? Or is it all starry eyed imagining of an America that seems great again?
While meanwhile, what are REALLY the most important issues and problems that keep America from making the progress on behalf of most Americans that we should? That's where "wiping the slate clean," and starting over should begin in earnest.
Notice what the democrats say they want. Technology, more border agents, etc...
All things that could easily be done away with a democrat in the WH. Taking down a wall less so.
They won't hesitate to tie the hands of the border agents or get rid of them one way or another.
The democrats donors are the Technology People in Ca. They have to dance for the donors if they want the campaign cash. Donor contracts is the pay off for quid pro quo campaign funds. We're talking billions of dollars with up grades over time.
Didn't you read the article? Apparently not since, if you had, you'd know that a wall didn't stop them. They went under it. So, tell me again why we should spend money on building something that's so easily breached?
A multi billion dollar wall built from our tax dollars is being proposed by Republicans and no, Mexico is not going to pay for it as promised by the president. Yet another broken promise and outright lie by him.
How effective will a wall be when you can just dig under it?
How effective will a wall be when you can just get a ladder?
How effective will a wall be when you have people who are extreamly motivated because they are extreamly desperate with little to lose who have shovels and bare hands to dig with and smart brains to overcome obstacles with?
Just read this article today:
30 unaccompanied children were among 376 migrants who tunneled under border wall into Arizona | Fox News
That section of the wall needs to have concrete footings added to the base.
No wall will ever completely stop the migrant invasion, but it does slow them down so that the border patrol has more control of the situation. And it's a much better situation than no border wall at all, and them meandering across our southern boundaries at all points.
And the important message that a wall sends is that they are NOT welcome in this country and that breaching the wall is an illegal action.
Again, $6 billion dollars is NOTHING. Boston's Big Dig project cost the Feds and MA $24.3 billion dollars.
The newer sections of wall are augered down very deeply into the earth; this is in part why the price tag for new construction is so high. The new design better prevents tunneling, which is most common along the AZ border because of the soft sand there.
The ladder strategy is a false premise, plain and simple. With the exception of the most populated border areas where supplies like a tall ladder can be found, how in the hell is someone supposed to carry a large ladder hundreds of miles through the desert? These people can’t even carry enough basic supplies to keep themselves hydrated and fed. And they don’t have a penny to their name. But they’re going to hump an expensive tall ladder through the Chihuahua desert? And what do they do with the ladder once they’re at the wall? Use it to climb up one side then what - jump 30 feet down the other side? ROFL. I wish people would think these things out a bit more.
A multi billion dollar wall built from our tax dollars is being proposed by Republicans and no, Mexico is not going to pay for it as promised by the president. Yet another broken promise and outright lie by him.
How effective will a wall be when you can just dig under it?
How effective will a wall be when you can just get a ladder?
How effective will a wall be when you have people who are extreamly motivated because they are extreamly desperate with little to lose who have shovels and bare hands to dig with and smart brains to overcome obstacles with?
Just read this article today:
30 unaccompanied children were among 376 migrants who tunneled under border wall into Arizona | Fox News
It wasn't a Trump type border wall they tunneled under. It did the job to slow them down anyway and the B&E crew was caught.
The wall is part of a system not a silver bullet. People who can't understand that concept are dumber than a wall. Do they expect the not so dumb people to believe they walk through walls in their house to get from room to room and not a doorway or opening ? Controlled entry is not a difficult concept.
I’ve yet to see a migrant carry enough food and water and clothing to even make it across the Chihuahua without suffering hypothermia/sunburn, hunger and thirst, much less 30-40 feet of rope to fashion a ladder. They just don’t have the carry capacity for such a thing. Not saying it’s never been attempted of course, but it’s not common.
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