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Old 02-08-2019, 07:46 PM
 
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I agree with everything you have said but do you have to use the PC term of undocumented and plain ole immigrant to describe illegal aliens which is the actual lawful immigration term for those in our country illegally? It grates on my nerves because this is the kind of untruthful lingo that the pro-illegals use.
Well, I'm not too concerned by people who get too easily offended or irritated by use of terminology. Around here, we use terms referenced on the books in the courts and in filings. Not sure what country you're referring to, but in my country, America, the most common terminology on federal and Texas (my state) books and filings are:

1. Undocumented persons
2. Unlawful employment of aliens

Now "illegal immigrant" has made it on the books as well, but is much less common and is only in newer bills (passed or unpassed). Originally this term was not used.

 
Old 02-08-2019, 07:53 PM
 
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Its under construction.

New multimillion-dollar barrier will soon break ground in Texas, even as funding divides Washingtonhttps://www.foxnews.com/us/as-border...round-in-texas

construction workers and architects have started plotting out their work for the next few months, and possibly years.
 
Old 02-08-2019, 07:56 PM
 
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Let’s hope they all come to their senses. Build the wall.
Building the wall would be the opposite of sensible.
 
Old 02-08-2019, 07:56 PM
 
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Well, I'm not too concerned by people who get too easily offended or irritated by use of terminology. Around here, we use terms referenced on the books in the courts and in filings. Not sure what country you're referring to, but in my country, America, the most common terminology on federal and Texas (my state) books and filings are:

1. Undocumented persons
2. Unlawful employment of aliens

Now "illegal immigrant" has made it on the books as well, but is much less common and is only in newer bills (passed or unpassed). Originally this term was not used.

The correct term in our federal immigration law terminology for those in our country illegally is illegal aliens. No surprise that Texas that has a lot of Hispanics in it and many there illegally would use PC language to describe them. We all know it's used to try and white wash what they actually are as if they just left their papers at home accidently and became "undocumented".
 
Old 02-08-2019, 08:00 PM
 
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Building the wall would be the opposite of sensible.

Really, so you know more than the Border Patrol and Homeland Security who say that the walls work and that they need them? I've even provided many links in the past denoting how that has been true. I'll tell you what's not sensible and that is continuing to pay the over $100 billion a year that illegals cost us.


Did you tell congress back in 2006 when the actual wall bill was passed that it wasn't sensible? Thought not!
 
Old 02-08-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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Greywar, if e-verify was made mandatory with federal monetary support, what would be an appropriate response to any state that did not support e-verify of any state that would make the use of e-verify illegal.
States can't make federal law illegal.
 
Old 02-08-2019, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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He'll be able to build a 2 ft wall with what his "art of the deal" gets.
It will be a HUGGEE two foot wall, the best two foot wall in the history of walls.
 
Old 02-08-2019, 08:07 PM
 
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You do realize Trump hired illegal immigrants to work for him. So have a lot of wealthy businesses people who don't want to pay real wages. If you get on Trump about this, illegal immigrants will stop coming. That would be more effective than putting up a wall no? Republicans, the party of big business, love the thought of open borders.

What I want to know is, is Trump going to continue to push against birthright citizenship, and push for blood citizenship?

No, he didn't! Rich business people do not hire manual laborers themselves and it's never been proven that he "knowingly" had any illegals working for him. Get back with us when he is convicted of that. Ever hear of the term "innocent until proven guilty"?


Not all illegals are coming here for work, thus the wall. Certainly criminals, drug runners and those from known terrorist countries aren't coming here for work, thus the wall.


If it's the Republicans who want open borders then why do Trump and many other Republicans want the wall? Guess what party is opposed to it though so you aren't making any sense. If you think it's only Republican businesses that hire illegals then you aren't dealing in reality either.


I hope Trump continues to go after birthright citizenship.
 
Old 02-08-2019, 08:08 PM
 
Location: FL
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Well ... if you want to measure to the inch ...

February 2017 -1,250-mile figure (Homeland Security figure)

April 2017 - "President Trump’s goal is to build 1,000 miles of wall, in addition to reinforcing the existing 654 miles of barriers along the border." Total length of the border spanned will be less due to the meandering Rio Grande River.

July 2017 - 700 to 900 miles (Trump estimate)

January 2018 - 700 miles (Sources speaking to WSJ)
https://qz.com/1172972/trumps-border...ore-expensive/

Current FY 2019 wish list (the $5 billion that led to the government shutdown) - 215 miles (100 miles for new)

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/04/tr...irst-100-days/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uy/2657385002/
https://qz.com/1172972/trumps-border...ore-expensive/

At some point, the wall is going to get so short that there is bound to be an agreement.
 
Old 02-08-2019, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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Yeah, I mean it would be horrible if we did something actually effective with that money like say.....funding mandatory everify. Something that would work.


But really this thread is mis-labeled, there is no deal yet, we're just hearing that they are talking, and even the talks arent going to fund the wall at any significant level. Its just going to be government waste.
While I agree that we should have E verify, there ARE ways around the system! Any solution to the issue requires a multi-pronged approach as no one program will resolve the issue.!
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