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Old 01-15-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Better that we own our investments and property as opposed to the Chinese....whose side are you on anyway?
So, all of a sudden foreign investment is a bad thing.......

There is nothing good about losing foreign investment.

I am on American side, and it pains me to see American people, and businesses hurting because of stupid moves by our politicians.

 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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And it's not just a little dip, but about 80% decrease, and about $80 billion dollars.

Let's not pretend the Trump admin policies have nothing to do with it.

As West Grows Wary, Chinese Investment Plummets

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/01/14...rope-plummets/

Chinese investment in the United States and Europe dropped sharply in 2018 after a couple of gangbuster years as Beijing seeks to control flows of capital and advanced economies grow warier of China’s economic influence.

Last year, Chinese firms invested just $30 billion in the United States, Canada, and Europe, a stark reversal from the $111 billion invested in 2017 and the $94 billion in 2016, according to new research from the law firm Baker McKenzie and the Rhodium Group.
It is the reason our Stock Market expanded in growth. As China contracts, the USA expands, to take up the loss and keep that currency flowing through AMERICAN's hands. Not the world getting richer off our backs.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It is the reason our Stock Market expanded in growth. As China contracts, the USA expands, to take up the loss and keep that currency flowing through AMERICAN's hands. Not the world getting richer off our backs.
Expanded? The market is 2 500 points lower than it was a year ago.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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So, all of a sudden foreign investment is a bad thing.......

There is nothing good about losing foreign investment.

I am on American side, and it pains me to see American people, and businesses hurting because of stupid moves by our politicians.
So you would be okay if the Chinese bought up all of our technology and military corporations?
 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:56 PM
 
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...they’re simply not, and they hold A LOT of our debt.
Sigh. No they really don't
 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:57 PM
 
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China invested much more in the Middle East and Africa.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ area
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Expanded? The market is 2 500 points lower than it was a year ago.
And yet it is still 5,660 pts higher than it was on Nov 8, 2016. Small scale is a losing strategy when looking at the market.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 01:16 PM
 
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So you would be okay if the Chinese bought up all of our technology and military corporations?
Apparently it is fine by Trump. Remember the steel tariffs. The ones imposed for "national security". Well a large chunk of U.S. steel plants are foreign owned. ArcelorMittal alone owns 16 percent. Courtesy of Wilbur Ross.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...sians-mexicans
 
Old 01-15-2019, 01:27 PM
 
Location: New York
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
And it's not just a little dip, but about 80% decrease, and about $80 billion dollars.

Let's not pretend the Trump admin policies have nothing to do with it.

As West Grows Wary, Chinese Investment Plummets

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/01/14...rope-plummets/

Chinese investment in the United States and Europe dropped sharply in 2018 after a couple of gangbuster years as Beijing seeks to control flows of capital and advanced economies grow warier of China’s economic influence.

Last year, Chinese firms invested just $30 billion in the United States, Canada, and Europe, a stark reversal from the $111 billion invested in 2017 and the $94 billion in 2016, according to new research from the law firm Baker McKenzie and the Rhodium Group.
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What is so great about losing $80 billion in foreign investment?

First, by your own article, it's not just for the US. Also, in your article, they invested a record $111B in 2017, which was Trump's first year.


The Chinese MUST start being good players in the world. No more money manipulation, no more theft of technology, no more one-sided trade barriers. They have been using the profits from the US to buy US assets.

I would trade whatever the US portion of that $80B is for the $250-$500B we lose to them every year. It's a win-win!

Can you do the math?
 
Old 01-15-2019, 03:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Expanded? The market is 2 500 points lower than it was a year ago.
Expanded enough for the FED to hike interest rates without much long term concerns. It is already back to normal business.
Pretty soon, you will be able to save for a rainy day, and your saved money won't lose value.
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