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Old 01-20-2019, 12:30 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Pelosi should have resigned when she uttered the words, 'we have to pass it to find out what is in it".


Unfortunately the media propaganda machine went silent, embarrassed to touch it. If we had a free press, pressure would have forced her to 'spend more time with her family'.


Alas, Pelosi has shown herself to be an artifact contaminating our government functioning.
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:32 PM
JRR
 
Location: Middle Tennessee
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Trump and Pelosi should both resign.
That would be a deal that I could live with.
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:38 PM
 
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That would be a trade that I could live with.

Trump supporters won't fall into that trap.

No need to punish Trump for Nancy's failures but if she goes first we will consider it before rejecting it.

Kind of like the shutdown.
Someone has to go first and Trump has compromised so its time for her to cave first.
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:40 PM
 
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Fortunately we can track the effectiveness of Pelosi over the next two years and see how she stacks up in legislation passed into law.
Will she be able to pass into law the amount of legislation that Trump has signed into law over the last two years ? She is behind the eight ball right now and my bet is she stays there. The good thing is we won't have to worry about what's in the bills. There will be plenty of time to read them as they flounder around getting rejected.

https://www.govtrack.us/
Yes, let's compare the record of a Speaker who has opposition party control of the Senate and White House to one where one party holds all three. That sounds fair and equitable.
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Old 01-20-2019, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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She needs to R-E-T-I-R-E now!
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Old 01-20-2019, 01:03 PM
 
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Yes, let's compare the record of a Speaker who has opposition party control of the Senate and White House to one where one party holds all three. That sounds fair and equitable.
Democrats have never been fair and equitable on who is in control.

Example : Senate requires 60 votes on legislation and that is not control even as they are the majority party.


She isn't the Speaker of the Senate either but you likely knew that and made an error. No big deal.
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Old 01-20-2019, 01:04 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Trump supporters won't fall into that trap.

No need to punish Trump for Nancy's failures but if she goes first we will consider it before rejecting it.

Kind of like the shutdown.
Someone has to go first and Trump has compromised so its time for her to cave first.
Trump made an agreement in December then reneged. That was not the first time that he's done that to the Democrats. His word isn't worth squat in negotiations.
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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Trump made an agreement in December then reneged. That was not the first time that he's done that to the Democrats. His word isn't worth squat in negotiations.
That's been going on for decades and that's one reason why it was never solved.

It predates Trump and is part of politics.

What the worth of someone who won't make an offer and just says no. Absolutely no value there.
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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Sure. Just as soon as she fails, let us know.
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Old 01-20-2019, 03:50 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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That's been going on for decades and that's one reason why it was never solved.

It predates Trump and is part of politics.

What the worth of someone who won't make an offer and just says no. Absolutely no value there.
Again, they did good faith negotiations with him and the Fox news people told him to say no, so he reneged on the deal. Should they just cut out the middleman and negotiate with the TV people?
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