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Old 02-02-2019, 04:58 AM
 
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Old 02-02-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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That kid was a threat to the general public and to the officer. Would you be defending the kid if the officer didn't shoot and that kid shoots or kidnaps your child?
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Not when you're protecting yourself, your fellow officers, or the general public.
The law doesnt work that way. The kid has to be a DIRECT threat to an actual person. Meaning he has to be running towards someone with the gun for the cop to shoot. Thats why the Walter Scott case resulted in a murder conviction. They dont work on abstracts, for abstract people. These policies were made because of police screwing up and killing people unjustly.

The cop is supposed to chase him down, not stand still and shoot at someone that is running away.
Im sure you like to see cops kill minorities, but they cant just kill people because you enjoy the police state mentality.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:01 AM
 
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They're protesting that they want justice but they got justice. Dip**** kid got shot and brought it on himself. Commit a crime and you are taking your life in your hands.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:50 AM
 
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That kid was a threat to the general public and to the officer. Would you be defending the kid if the officer didn't shoot and that kid shoots or kidnaps your child?
How can someone be a credible threat when they are running away from you?


If a civilian did this and tried to claim they felt threatened, they would be laughed out of the courtroom, prosecutors would ask how they could be a threat if they are running AWAY.


He was NO threat to the general public either, pretty sure it not acceptable to shoot someone based on what they COULD or MAY do. lol
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:50 AM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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He was armed, though.
Yes, he was - but the entire scope of the crime has to be taken into account before you fire. Running away from an unoccupied stolen while armed is different from running away from a triple homicide while armed. It’s pretty hairy, so you have to look at everything in a shooting like this.
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Old 02-03-2019, 12:08 AM
 
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America's gun culture makes it more dangerous for cops AND civilians. Cops must automatically assume that any person, whether in public or at home, is armed to the teeth as a result of America's extremely lax gun laws.
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Old 02-03-2019, 12:56 AM
 
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According to the truck owner the kid didn't even have a gun. He had a cell phone.
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Old 02-03-2019, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Wow! -that's pretty crazy, shooting someone for breaking into a truck.
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Old 02-03-2019, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The law doesnt work that way.
Yes it does. Read the fleeing felon rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule

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The kid has to be a DIRECT threat to an actual person.
No he doesn't. For an officer to be justified in shooting someone, he must reasonably believe that the person is a danger to himself or the public.

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Meaning he has to be running towards someone with the gun for the cop to shoot.
Again, no he doesn't.

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Thats why the Walter Scott case resulted in a murder conviction.

The Walter Scott case ended in a murder conviction because at the time, Scott wasn't armed. In this case, the kid had a realistic replica gun in his hand and he can turn around and shoot.

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They dont work on abstracts, for abstract people. These policies were made because of police screwing up and killing people unjustly.

The cop is supposed to chase him down, not stand still and shoot at someone that is running away.
Im sure you like to see cops kill minorities, but they cant just kill people because you enjoy the police state mentality.
Nice accusation of character. As it turns out, I'm black.
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Old 02-03-2019, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Florida
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How can someone be a credible threat when they are running away from you?
for one, he could either turn around and shoot at the cop at any second or turn a corner and set up an ambush. For another, he could take someone hostage, shoot, kidnap, rob, or otherwise harm another person who wasn't involved.

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If a civilian did this and tried to claim they felt threatened, they would be laughed out of the courtroom, prosecutors would ask how they could be a threat if they are running AWAY.
Civilians aren't tasked or trained to chase and arrest bad guys. Even then, since the kid had a realistic looking toy gun in his hand, with the right defense and jury, a civilian can make a solid case. But back to your main point, your argument is faulty at it's core. If someone who isn't a doctor operated on someone, he would be charged with practicing without a license.

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He was NO threat to the general public either, pretty sure it not acceptable to shoot someone based on what they COULD or MAY do. lol
He most certainly was a threat. He was holding a realistic looking toy gun in his hand. That makes his crime of braking into the car armed burglary.
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