Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
lol so you can't explain how 2 of the biggest nations you listed are 'conservative' but those don't count because I haven't talked about the other ones that I have little or knowledge of.
If every single one of the nations on that list required that women cover their entire bodies, then you would have a case.
But since only a few of those nations require that women cover their entire bodies, then it just happens to be a feature of a few of those nations, and thus is not an overall feature of national conservatism. In turn, that means you have no point.
And in your attempt to deflect attention to some specific features of a few of the countries, you are still missing the main, and most important, point.
the main point is those countries are nothing like conservative areas in this country.
just the fact that you try to associate poverty with conservatism is hilarious given your party's main strategy is to lock up the poor vote. you are basically throwing your own voters under the bus.
If poverty proves an ideology is wrong, then you have made a case against liberalism.
Last edited by ClemVegas; 02-03-2019 at 08:06 PM..
If every single one of the nations on that list required that women cover their entire bodies, then you would have a case.
But since only a few of those nations require that women cover their entire bodies, then it just happens to be a feature of a few of those nations, and thus is not an overall feature of national conservatism. In turn, that means you have no point.
And in your attempt to deflect attention to some specific features of a few of the countries, you are still missing the main, and most important, point.
The only deflections are your posts. You make up a definition about conservatives because the big government that you love is a failure.
BTW, Canada, Australia and several Western European nations have plenty of lower-class immigrants. Or have you not been paying attention to the news the past 10 years? They might not have "tens of millions" only because they have smaller populations. The US has 320 million. Australia has just 30 million.
Blacks and Hispanics make up 30% of the United States population. Almost none of the other white, Western countries have a nonwhite percentage that high. In fact, they have highly restrictive immigration policies and most of the nonwhite immigrants in those countries are highly educated, not lower-class.
It is much easier for a country to have socialist government programs when most of the population is white with a small percentage of nonwhites that are highly educated.
the main point is those countries are nothing like conservative areas in this country.
The conservative areas of the US are closer to those countries than the liberal areas. But no, that does not mean I'm saying they're forcing women to wear burkas.
Quote:
just the fact that you try to associate poverty with conservatism is hilarious given your party's main strategy is to lock up the poor vote. you are basically throwing your own voters under the bus.
If poverty proves an ideology is wrong, then you have made a case against liberalism.
I'm sorry to inform you, but you are still wrong, and I have data to prove it. In spite of all those immigrants from poor countries leaning democratic, the fact is ...
New Census Bureau data shows median household income trends for 2015 fell along political lines: While family income went up in every state last year, families in Democratic states earn more than families in Republican states. Democratic-leaning states earn more than Republican-leaning states, and so on.
While you spend a lot of time focusing on the poor Hispanic and Black democrats, you seem to forget that there are a lot of poor Whites in places like Appalachia who vote republican.
The only deflections are your posts. You make up a definition about conservatives because the big government that you love is a failure.
In turn, that means you have no point.
Translation: You cannot dispute what I have pointed out, so you have to resort to accusing me of deflecting.
And I'm STILL waiting ... so far there's only been 1 person to attempt to answer my question in bold. Though I suppose 1 other person offered Japan. But as I pointed out, both those attempts failed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Bond 007
I'm still waiting to hear what the conservatives here would consider conservative countries.
You see, their problem is, when they try to name (developed!) countries like the person in post #33 did, the countries they end up listing are actually to the left of the US, completely defeating their attempt to list conservative countries.
Their alternative is to accept something reasonably similar to the list in the OP - countries that are truly conservative. Of course they don't want to do that either, because all of those conservative countries are basically places any sane person would not want to live in.
The conservative areas of the US are closer to those countries than the liberal areas. But no, that does not mean I'm saying they're forcing women to wear burkas.
I'm sorry to inform you, but you are still wrong, and I have data to prove it. In spite of all those immigrants from poor countries leaning democratic, the fact is ...
While you spend a lot of time focusing on the poor Hispanic and Black democrats, you seem to forget that there are a lot of poor Whites in places like Appalachia who vote republican.
There aren't enough people in rural areas to win elections. The definition of rural is sparsely populated. Most welfare poor white people are Democrats. Not everybody in a rural area is poor and on welfare.
Most conservative/Republican voters live in the suburbs, not rural areas.
Trump won white people across demographics, not just poor rural white people.
I'm pretty sure most people who move to America from those countries vote Democrat, not Republican.
In my view any authoritarian government is more liberal than conservative. We know American lefitsts have admired Stalin, Hitler, Mussilini, Chavez, Castro and other despots.
Conservatism is basically the principles laid out in the declaration of independence and the constitution. Freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of religion, pursuiit of happiness, etc.
We know the left is contantly attacking free speech rights for conservatives. They riot when conservates like Ann Coulter and Ben Shapiro are invited to campus by conservative groups and force the college to cancel their talks because of security costs. They want speech codes on campus. etc.
Disputed by liberals who seem to have a disdain for poor white people.
Maybe it is because you are frustrated you can't buy every poor person off with Santa Claus government. They are pro life or for gun rights, etc and they don't take your bribe. That's something to respect, not mock.
Liberals are intolerant of people with different ideas. They literally set the campus on fire when a conservative comes to speak. Keep in mind these are ostensibly intelligent liberals so what about the ones who don't go to college.
When liberals like Michael Moore come to campus, you don't see riots like this by conservatives because we are civilized people.
If you are a person threatened by 100 lb Ann Coulter, perhaps it is time to reconsider your political beliefs.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
