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Old 02-06-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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Either that or it's a manic phase and his "insurance" doesn't cover the meds.

 
Old 02-06-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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This might sound radical, or even unconstitutional, but it's not. It would not be a violation of the First Amendment which permits free practice of any religion.

Right now, the federal and state governments are ALREADY pushing one religion, and that is atheism. Atheism was ruled to be an official religion, "entitled to the same legal protections of other established religions" in the 2005 Supreme Court Case Kaufman v. McCaughtry.

We have seen the promotion of atheist values as abortion on demand up until birth regardless of it's health, of forcing businesses under threat of imprisonment to participate in gay weddings, and of forcing Catholics to purchase birth control for others, or face prosecution. New Jersey now requires LGBTQ history be taught in every school. The federal government gives half a billion dollars every year to the Planned Parenthood abortion mills. Every one of these policies pushes the atheist agenda and violates Christian teaching as well as common decency.

For folks who squawk about separation of church and state, time has proven this is impossible. There is no such thing as an absence of religion in a vacuum. It is not possible to separate laws from one religious value or another. Inevitably atheism becomes the de facto alternative fill-in. And atheism, as we have shown IS a religion with its own pro-active agenda.

There is only one way to solve this dilemma. Protect the moral and decent. Get rid of the immoral, the perverse, and the hideous. Protect the view that our country was founded on, the view held by most Americans and, really, every moral person: the views of Christianity. If promoting one religion is unavoidable, let's at least promote the right one. Let's do it now.
how scary this post is !

denying religious freedom to non Christians and having non perfect humans judge others beliefs .

remember even god gave us freedom of choice on what to follow! !!
 
Old 02-06-2019, 08:49 AM
 
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So what are you going to do about it? You love government. You're just mad because you don't control it. And you never will.


Why does government exist? Why has it ever existed? Think of thousands of years of human history. Why did the Roman Empire exist? Or the British Empire? Or the Nazis? Or the Soviets? Or America?

Government exists for power and nothing else. If you believe otherwise, you're an indoctrinated moron.


The state is necessarily amoral. States cannot have morality. They only pretend to be moral when it serves their interests. The same "moral people" of the past, would gladly support genocide if it was in the interests of the state.


Please read this...

Rousseau's Theory of the State

"Modern states have reached precisely this point. Christianity serves them only as a pretext or a phrase or as a means of deceiving the idle mob, for they pursue goals which have nothing to do with religious sentiments. The great statesmen of our days, the Palmerstons, the Muravievs, the Cavours, the Bismarcks, the Napoleons, had a good laugh when people took their religious pronouncements seriously. They laughed harder when people attributed humanitarian sentiments, considerations, and intentions to them, but they never made the mistake of treating these ideas in public as so much nonsense. Just what remains to constitute their morality? The interest of the State, and nothing else. From this point of view, which, incidentally, with very few exceptions, has been that of the statesmen, the strong men of all times and of all countries from this point of view, I say, whatever conduces to the preservation, the grandeur and the power of the State, no matter how sacrilegious or morally revolting it may seem, that is the good. And conversely, whatever opposes the State's interests, no matter how holy or just otherwise, that is evil. Such is the secular morality and practice of every State." - Mikhail Bakunin, Theory of the State, 1873.
OK, so your contention is government exists for power and nothing else. So perhaps you have a thought as to why it serves power to promote an atheist agenda. Are you saying Christianity would compete with that power? Are you saying the natural and ultimate order of things is an atheist government, aka Marxism?
 
Old 02-06-2019, 08:51 AM
 
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how scary this post is !

denying religious freedom to non Christians and having non perfect humans judge others beliefs .

remember even god gave us freedom of choice on what to follow! !!
So why isn't it equally scary to you to have immoral atheist laws push on to you?
 
Old 02-06-2019, 08:51 AM
 
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Jesus Christ is an illegal! he has no place in the US.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 08:51 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Atheists have also perverted the concept of separation of church and state to such extremes that a coach can't even pray for his team and many communities have had to destroy their long term values and traditions or monuments all to appease the all mighty intolerant atheists. Atheists won't even allow a Gideon Bible to be placed in a hotel room out of sight anymore.


Where/when has this happened?
 
Old 02-06-2019, 08:52 AM
 
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So why isn't it equally scary to you to have immoral atheist laws push on to you?
Did it occur to you that maybe that person doesn't believe atheist laws are immoral?
 
Old 02-06-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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So why isn't it equally scary to you to have immoral atheist laws push on to you?

What specific "immoral atheist laws" are being pushed on anyone?
 
Old 02-06-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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No, I'm saying that YOU are saying the government is violating the establishment clause (which you explicitly said in the OP). As for me, as I said I think the government tends to be more agnostic. So for me, there is nothing that needs to be fixed.
So you're saying the government is capable of operating without a religious influence. I say it is not possible as evidenced by the way it is governing. All laws violate some religion, yes? I would rather the religion being violated is the one most people find repugnant, and that is atheism.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 08:55 AM
 
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What specific "immoral atheist laws" are being pushed on anyone?
Read or reread paragraph three of my OP.
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