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Old 02-06-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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Originally Posted by VA Yankee View Post
Seeing who the OP is i'm not surprised at this discussion, as to the posted question Hell No there are already enough countries with a state religion move to one of them...
OK. I'll move to Chile if you move to North Korea.

 
Old 02-06-2019, 11:58 AM
 
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I'll tell you what harms society and everybody in it. Not taking care of the poor and children who need food and healthcare. And what you call immoral others may not call immoral. It's all a matter of perspective. If you don't want an abortion, don't get one. If you don't want to marry someone of the same sex, don't. If you don't believe in sex before marriage, fine. Be a virgin. It's really that simple.

You may as well relax. The Constitution does not allow for a theocracy like you are calling for. And all your bitching and moaning ain't gonna change that. Thank goodness.
You are very naïve and egocentric if you think acts only affect you. A four-year-old thinks that way, too.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 12:00 PM
 
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Yes, slavery was an evil that harmed all of society. It was eliminated, but not because of religion. Christians used the Bible to justify slavery just as much as to abolish it. It was eliminated based on recognition of basic human rights. I've always said that if pro-life forces want to be successful they should frame abortion as a human rights issue. As long as they insist on making it an issue of religion, they will never succeed in this secular nation.
I never make abortion as an issue of religion. I always frame it as a human rights issue, as does every pro-lifer I know. We never say. "Oh, abortion is wrong because my church says so".
 
Old 02-06-2019, 12:00 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I disagree with the whole premise. You treat government like it's a separate nonhuman entity, when it's made up of humans with agendas.

That differs from religions HOW?
 
Old 02-06-2019, 12:00 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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OP wants a prez that's been approved by the Evangelicals. He got one: a lying, adulterous, vulgar, corrupt, callous, swindling, bullying, con man. Jesus would have put the whip to Trump like he did to the money changers in the Temple.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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Who's pushing laws on you? Seriously, what is it out there that scares you so much that you think the government is going to "make" you do? I really don't understand.
Perhaps you missed it when the Marxist authors of 0bummercare tried to FORCE Catholic hospitals and schools to pay for birth control for their employees.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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Nope, my values don't stem from my lack of belief in gods.

Which does nothing to validate your allegation that ""Atheism doesn't have any values"
 
Old 02-06-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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All secular governments are hostile to religion. The more totalitarian the government, the more hostile it is to religion.

Government only tolerates religion where it is useful.
You are mostly correct, except where you say 'secular', I would substitute in 'atheist'.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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So your statement "Atheism doesn't have any values" was just nonsense?
I interpreted that statement as meaning that atheism is morally neutral; that it's simply an absence of belief in God/gods and nothing more, less, or other than that.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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OP's appetite is insatiable. Stop feeding. Please see 2/02/19 thread on this forum: Christian health insurance: Cheap, great. The Marxist media keeps it a secret.

Do not be fooled by the title> OP Conclusion: A far right evangelical version of the Catholic Church is the only true religion; USA should be a Theocracy with Catholic Church named the state religion.


Warning if you read any of the more than 550 posts of the OP or the more than 1390 total posts of the thread (a lot of them informed and logical rebuttals, such as on here ) you will want to poke out your eyeballs.

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