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Old 02-16-2019, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Houston
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That silly Constitution getting in Trump’s way.
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Old 02-16-2019, 11:45 AM
 
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That silly Constitution getting in Trump’s way.
Remember when the Republican party/Conservatives used to get all patriotic and pretend they supported the Constitution?

They're not even pretending anymore.
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Old 02-16-2019, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Remember when the Republican party/Conservatives used to get all patriotic and pretend they supported the Constitution?

They're not even pretending anymore.
Yep, that ended the day Trump was sworn in. Until the last couple years I regarded the Republicans as the lesser evil.
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Old 02-16-2019, 12:45 PM
 
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It's totally amazing to me, that there are still some believers that think the border is not a crisis situation. What do they think, that all the members of ICE, police, and security people made this up? Have these non-believers not seen the thousands of people trying to cross into our country, illegally, many dangerous? I guess they don't want our President to protect us all. But even if they hate our President, to not believe all the professional law enforcement people that described this dangerous situation is really, really stupid!
Apparently people haven't seen these illegals hanging around their bus stops, street corners, missions. parks and stuff either. That's the only conclusion I've come to anyway, folks just haven't seen them. I think witnessing it does make a difference.
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Old 02-16-2019, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Our invaders building our homes and picking our crops lol

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Old 02-16-2019, 02:03 PM
 
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It's totally amazing to me, that there are still some believers that think the border is not a crisis situation. What do they think, that all the members of ICE, police, and security people made this up? Have these non-believers not seen the thousands of people trying to cross into our country, illegally, many dangerous? I guess they don't want our President to protect us all. But even if they hate our President, to not believe all the professional law enforcement people that described this dangerous situation is really, really stupid!
Listen to the Texas Sheriffs

https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-...t-trumps-wall/

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Hidalgo County Sheriff J.E. “Eddie” Guerra, who is in charge of policing the largest and most populous county in the Rio Grande Valley, said that crime rates in his county are at record lows, and that illegal immigration has very little effect on the safety of residents. Meanwhile, Brewster County Sheriff Ronny Dodson, who is responsible for policing the largest county in Texas, said he doesn’t support the construction of a wall along any part of the 192-mile stretch of border in Brewster County, which includes Big Bend National Park.
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Five hundred miles northwest, Brewster County Sheriff Ronny Dodson says he’s seeing a similar trend. Dodson, a Democrat who has been in the post since 2001, said the migrants apprehended in his county tend to be asylum-seekers from Central America fleeing some of the most dangerous countries in the world. In 2017, the number of apprehensions in the Big Bend sector, which includes Brewster County, was less than half of what it was in 2000.

“The Guatemalans and Hondurans are not carrying drugs,” Dodson said. “For the most part, they just go on through.”
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“First of all, we already have one physical barrier, that’s the Rio Grande. To cross it, [migrants] use a raft. To cross a 22-foot-high fence, they’ll use a ladder,” Guerra said, adding that federal money would be better spent on improving technology at ports and hiring more Border Patrol agents.

Both Guerra and Dodson believe that hiring additional qualified Border Patrol agents, who work with local law enforcement, is the best way to bolster border security. The number of Border Patrol agents along the U.S.-Mexico border nearly doubled between 2000 and 2017, turning the area into one of the most surveilled and policed parts of the nation.
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Old 02-16-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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Apparently people haven't seen these illegals hanging around their bus stops, street corners, missions. parks and stuff either. That's the only conclusion I've come to anyway, folks just haven't seen them. I think witnessing it does make a difference.
Listen to the officials in El Paso

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.071583aeca80

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Trump had made the city a centerpiece of his push for a border wall during the State of the Union address last week, saying that its fence, which was constructed between 2008 and 2010, had reduced violent crime and made El Paso one of the “safest cities in our country.” He repeated the claims during his campaign rally in the city on Monday night.

But Trump’s claims were false. The city’s violent crime peaked in 1993 before declining sharply throughout the 1990s, in line with national trends, and long before the city’s fence was approved by Congress in 2006. From 2006 to 2011 — the period through the two years after it was built, violent crime actually increased 17 percent, according to the El Paso Times.
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Old 02-17-2019, 03:13 AM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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Maybe in your particular world you need someone or thing to be afraid of. Trump has been beating this drum of lies and racial stereotypes for years and you believe it. As someone living on the border for 30 plus years, I can tell you that there is no "crisis" worthy of this kind of hatred and division being promulgated on our country.
My husband goes there frequently for work and he would disagree with you. He spends lots of time in el Paso, McAllen and Laredo, and a few places off border, but near the 2nd checkpoints.
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Delaware Native
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Even the president finally admitted this is not really a crisis situation. Are you calling the president "really, really stupid"?

Not that I would disagree with that assessment.
Oh, my. Your reading skills need some work. You should have paid more attention in elementary reading class. Maybe read a little slower and try and stay focused. But, hay...practice makes perfect.
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Delaware Native
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Maybe in your particular world you need someone or thing to be afraid of. Trump has been beating this drum of lies and racial stereotypes for years and you believe it. As someone living on the border for 30 plus years, I can tell you that there is no "crisis" worthy of this kind of hatred and division being promulgated on our country.
Hogwash. You're probably from New York.
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