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Old 02-20-2019, 09:01 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are self-described socialists.

Are you saying we shouldn’t take them at their word?
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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I don’t care what your definition or anyone else’s definition of socialism is, I do not want to pay for other people’s stuff. Period. I don’t need government to decide what’s good for me. I know what’s good for me and I pay for me and not for thee.
Well, I give you credit for being honest about your selfishness and lack of concern for fellow humans.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are self-described socialists.
Are you saying we shouldn’t take them at their word?

The problem is the right wing dishonestly twists Democratic Socialism into communism and socialist dictatorships. It's a scare tactic built on a lie.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The problem is the right wing dishonestly twists Democratic Socialism into communism and socialist dictatorships. It's a scare tactic built on a lie.
It seems those Democrats also have a problem with words, because they say "Democratic Socialism" while meaning Social Democracy.

Democratic Socialism IS socialism where the government owns and operates the means of production.

Social Democracy is the "nordic model" which Sanders keeps talking about. They have free market economies, with taxpayer funded social services.

They would be more credible if they learned the difference.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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If it wasn't for the military ensuring your freedoms like right now posting your propaganda of poop.Do you own a crystal ball into others inner souls ... at least Repubs aren't going to cub a newborn baby straight out of the womb!
A hundred years ago the state militias were called in by state Governors to shoot strikers, striking coal miners, and striking copper miners. In some cases women and children were killed. Documentation follows: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre

In 1970 national guardsmen shot and killed four at Kent State University. The authorization to carry and use live ammunition was given by the Governor of Ohio.

You can be proud of the modern day military because of a law passed in the late nineteen seventies called Posse Comitatus.

Before you presume to dispute or debate me, learn some history.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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The problem is the right wing dishonestly twists Democratic Socialism into communism and socialist dictatorships. It's a scare tactic built on a lie.

and where does it come from? The extreme ultra wealthy who love this current system and absolutely don't want an up rise from the masses.



The saying goes rich people telling the middle class to blame the poor. Right wingers really believe the ultra rich are just like them and have their back.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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TRANSLATION: Uh-oh, they caught us.

Quick, let's start sliming Fox as usual, as though they were the blinders-on extremists instead of us. We can't refute their statements of how socialism (and its kissing cousin communism) has never worked as advertised and has usually led to poverty, big-govt oppression, and even the collapse of entire countries.

Maybe we can change the subject to how conservatives are wrong, and get people to stop noticing that socialists have been wrong time and again, but remain convinced their failed agenda can somehow work someday.

"We report, you decide" give me a break.

They seem to have stopped saying that.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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I don't care as long as the women on Fox were attractive.

They are attractive. Now if we could only be more willing to find the mute button.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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so...... when Fox uses the word socialism its red scare...but when self described, avowed socialists become the darling of the democrat party.... and their positions become the primary talking-points of the party...there is nothing to see so move along smartly? anyone calling them out is some kind of fear monger?




sounds exactly like something a socialist would say.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:08 AM
 
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"We report, you decide" give me a break.

They seem to have stopped saying that.
they no longer have to.


every other news outlet has done so much stupid stuff, fox news has become the most trusted source.


how many times to the MSM get to print something they have to retract because they didn't do basic journalism and investigate their sources before you accept the confirmation bias they are committed to?
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