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Old 02-24-2019, 05:49 PM
 
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No, because most people aren't long term thinkers
Are you God or a slave master? Only they can tell people what to do.
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:35 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You're in the minority. The majority are against toll roads, and even in Texas, which has gone toll crazy in recent years, there has been push after push in the state house for TxDot to buy the toll roads from the contract holders and remove the tolls. And it's mainly due to angry constituents
Why would anyone have a problem with paying for what they use? Don't want to pay the toll? Don't drive on toll roads.
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:44 AM
 
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It's pretty silly and dangerous to make something important such as people's pensions depend on companies and corporations.
How else would they be funded? The Fed and State Governments don't have enough money to pay them.
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Your statements don't make sense: "Note that the highest levels of government benefits and services are provided by countries (Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Belgium) in which taxes are flat (everyone pays the same tax rate) or regressive (shown as the negative values along the bottom axis, meaning a greater tax burden is placed on those with lower incomes)"

In Scandinavia the tax rate increases with income.
I linked both the Washington Post article and the research upon which the article was based, which also includes many additional citations. Do what I suggested and read and learn.
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:53 AM
 
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No it is not, when they cover / do not cover different things.

So still waiting to hear if I can get some reimbursements, lol.

The total federal revenue is 3.33 trillion or so. Out of which approx. 1.17 trillion is the payroll taxes. We spent 1 trillion + in military expenses. Nobody else is crazy to that, not with a 22 trillion in debt.
National defense is a Constitutional mandate. Social welfare programs are not. Eliminate the $1+ trillion we spend on means-tested public assistance programs each year and use that money to pay down the national debt. Fund assistance programs via voluntary donations to private charitable foundations. If society values funding such programs, they will voluntarily do so. If not, then society has spoken.
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:58 AM
 
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blah blah blah.


The reason folk are angry is because they thought the increase in the pay packet was all from reduced taxation...
It turns out it was mostly just recalculated withholdings and not reduced taxes. People thought the withholdings were per usual, not rejigged to juice the numbers short term...
That makes no sense. A reduction in one's effective tax rate is still a tax cut. It doesn't matter if one gets that money up front via less withholding, or if they wait for it for a year while giving the Fed Gov an interest free loan.

Anyone who doesn't realize that is financially and/or math illiterate.

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Remember withholdings are purposely slightly too high mostly to ensure people get a pleasant surprise instead of a bill. .
That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on city-data.
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:59 AM
 
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Someone said aid/welfare should be paid for with voluntary contributions rather than taxes. I don't think it makes sense to make people's lives depend on the whims of potential donors. People should know that when they really need help, they are entitled to get it.
"Entitled?" No, they are not entitled.
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Old 02-25-2019, 06:02 AM
 
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The owners of many big Portuguese companies have also moved their residence or headquarters to other countries in order to avoid taxes. It is antisocial behavior. We need pan-European laws and tax rates for any person and company operating in more than one country.

That is a big problem in the EU, countries are egoistic and try to get advantages at the expense of the other EU countries. Think of infamous Luxembourg and Netherlands.

I actually like the idea that a person has to pay taxes in their country of origin, until and unless they change their nationality.

All companies should be forced by law to pay taxes in full wherever they are doing business.
European countries don't do that, though, which makes Europe one of the most prominent tax havens in the world and makes US corporations less competitive on a global scale. The US should do the same: let the wealthy avoid taxes at will by living elsewhere and/or running their corporations through other tax haven countries.
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Old 02-25-2019, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Are you God or a slave master? Only they can tell people what to do.
You didn’t know? FirebirdCamaro gets to decide what’s truly important.
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Old 02-25-2019, 06:27 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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Governments are supposed to "protect the people". They aren't doing it very well as the gap is huge! It isn't an easy job, but you could probably have taxation on the super wealthy. Say if you are making a million or more a year you could have an extra tax the progresses. Use those funds to better our country. This all isn't as easy as it looks however.
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Old 02-25-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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IN order to close the gap we have to motivate the poor to become better educated and encourage them to work harder.
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