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Old 03-01-2019, 07:03 AM
 
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It's not that he paid a mistress, it's that that this payment violated campaign finance law. It is a crime.

Which is why Trump lies about it.

 
Old 03-01-2019, 07:05 AM
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Location: Florida
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They’re lying about the POTUS committing a felony. Generally, that’s not seen as OK.
How is this a felony?
 
Old 03-01-2019, 07:07 AM
 
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There are a whole lot of Lawyers who've explained paying off these extortionist was not illegal. He did it with his own money.

At worse it was Campaign finance which is not a felony. Obama was fined like $300k for Campaign finance.

You just want it to be a Felony. Sorry.
1–a “whole lot of lawyers” got OJ off—did that make him innocent of killing his wife and Ron Goldman?
You know and I know and everyone knows that Trump’s attorneys say what he wants to hear...
As in Jay Sekulow helping Michael Cohen prepare his first round of testimony before Congress—
The one where he lied about items that caused him to be convicted in Federal court recently...

2–Cohen did use his own money initially because Trump was trying to distance his OWN involvement and put the action at arm’s length—
Why would he do that? Because Trump knew this payoff would put him in a bad light before the election
He had to appear “reborn” to keep the Evangelicals’ vote in the coming election
The p—-y tape had been outed—Trump’s lack of remorse when assaulting women was a real negative
In fact the Wikileaks dump came out almost immediately after the Access Hollywood release—
The timing was no surprise—since Trump knew it would happen soon based on Cohen’s testimony re Stone’s phone call—BUT likely it was sooner than anticipated because of that Access Hollywood damage...

3–Cohen was REPAID by Trump (maybe not all of it)—-so that money advanced was a “loan” to aid Trump’s election campaign—not the “retainer” Trump claimed it was...
It has to be reported when it happened to be LEGAL...
If they had reported it during the campaign there would be no way to trap either one of them—
But they were afraid of BAD PRESS...
That is why they did it—-because they knew it would impact the election....
So their actions confirm everything those who criticize Trump about this issue are saying...

4–When does a campaign finance violation become a true crime??
When it is part of a continuing conspiracy of various other crimes...
Context determines the severity of most crimes
You can kill a man and walk away w/o even being charged in the “right” circumstance
Determining the circumstances accurately is the issue
Trump and Cohen lied and lied and lied to cover up the accuracy of what happened
That means it was more than a “campaign violation”, an inadvertent mistake where people didn’t know they had to report it or underestimated the amount or the source...
That wasn’t the problem w/this money at all...
 
Old 03-01-2019, 07:07 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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This is a moot point. Spending one's money on a mistress is not a crime.

Lucky for Trump, neither is being a liar, a cheat, or a sleazeball.
 
Old 03-01-2019, 07:11 AM
 
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This is a moot point. Spending one's money on a mistress is not a crime.
Not sure that folks are talking about this because there is any criminal (maybe campaign finance but who knows) activity.

If you remember - one of the many criticisms of Trump is his lack of character, morality, integrity, class, etc.....

This speaks to that.

Trump is trying to get us to believe him over Cohen -- lol.. Why would Trump then have paid Cohen back if Trump NEVER asked Cohen to pay.

Trump is not the kind of man to hand out cash easily and why would he give Cohen this pay back if he didn't initiate the cover up.

And the story changes daily from Trump.

Hannity is trying his best to help Trump out. Reality -- the base will be loyal...it's the rest of the voters that won't.
 
Old 03-01-2019, 07:13 AM
 
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How is this a felony?


Look at the John Edwards prosecution, look at the Trump situation. They are nearly identical...except for the "weaknesses" that existed in the Edwards prosecution that led to the hung jury DO NOT exist in Trump's case. He's guilty as sin. Edwards was facing a hefty prison sentence if convicted. I expect the same for Trump.




The idea that Trump and Hannity could now come pump out this 3rd or 4th story about what happened, believing their base to be so stupid they would believe it, is sad really. What is sad? The base is really THAT stupid.

We already have Guiliani, on camera, stating Trump paid for it with his own money.

We already have Trump, ON TAPE, discussing the payment, with Cohen.

We have proof that Trump reimbursed Cohen for the payments.


Just how stupid must you be to now believe Trump was in the dark the dark the whole time and Cohen acted on his own?
 
Old 03-01-2019, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Look at the John Edwards prosecution, look at the Trump situation. They are nearly identical...except for the "weaknesses" that existed in the Edwards prosecution that led to the hung jury DO NOT exist in Trump's case. He's guilty as sin. Edwards was facing a hefty prison sentence if convicted. I expect the same for Trump.




The idea that Trump and Hannity could now come pump out this 3rd or 4th story about what happened, believing their base to be so stupid they would believe it, is sad really. What is sad? The base is really THAT stupid.

We already have Guiliani, on camera, stating Trump paid for it with his own money.

We already have Trump, ON TAPE, discussing the payment, with Cohen.

We have proof that Trump reimbursed Cohen for the payments.


Just how stupid must you be to now believe Trump was in the dark the dark the whole time and Cohen acted on his own?
I also don’t see Trump claiming that the payment was to protect his family since it was just just before the election and the affair was years ago.
 
Old 03-01-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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I also don’t see Trump claiming that the payment was to protect his family since it was just just before the election and the affair was years ago.

Right- the main weaknesses of the Edwards case were that the payments were made a year out from the election, that the funds didn't make it to the intended recipient, and they were made by a friend of Edwards that legitimately MAY (although I think we all know its BS) have done it for him on a personal level and not to protect his political career.


With Trump we have it happening a week before the election, by an employee, and the stated purpose (on tape) is for the election.

Reminder that Edwards case ended in a hung jury meaning there were many ready to convict him based on the above. No way Trump skates if he is prosecuted here.
 
Old 03-01-2019, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Lol. Hannity=Individual 3=Lock Him Up!
 
Old 03-01-2019, 07:48 AM
 
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Did they forget Cohen’s audio recording?

Honestly, it’s like a skit. Enjoy!

https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/st...36196066627584
These two yoyos are likely conjoined twins that shared a brain but were surgically separated at birth. Half-wit repulsive un-American jerkwads both!
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