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Old 03-24-2019, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by bentlebee View Post
With all the winning by President Trump, as promised by the President, the left lost 2020 on March 24th, 2019!
Not so fast.

Let's see how Trump does in the next 18 months. Let's see if Howard Schultz runs. Let's see if the democrats nominate a communist, or someone relatively sane.

I am inclined to vote for Trump at this point, but there's a long way to go!

 
Old 03-24-2019, 05:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
Trump has finally spoken up on the matter.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...18388133023744


I've said for 2+ years, the Russian meme was bogus. Time to go after those who made it up.
Except he was not exonerated for obstruction of justice.
 
Old 03-24-2019, 05:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Corrie22 View Post
No one has to "come on" at all....all you have to do is read it correctly

Barr was quoting Mueller....Barr read Mueller's evidence...or lack of...and said it will not hold up in a court of law...you have to show "beyond a reasonable doubt"

..and none of Mueller's 'evidence" would hold up if charges were filed..Barr wrote and entire paragraph about it....read it
So I have to agree with your spin to read something correctly?

Trump clearly expressed his intent to obstruct justice twice: once to Lavrov and Kisylak, and again to Lester Holt. Both in public and on the record. It doesn't matter what Barr wrote. He is a partisan appointed by the accused, and he chose to ignore Trump's stated purpose to fire Comey to obstruct the investigation.
 
Old 03-24-2019, 05:36 PM
 
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Originally Posted by dashrendar4454 View Post
And if there is no collusion, there is no reason for obstruction

exactly.....if there is no crime...obstruction is a moot point especially when Trump let Mueller finish his investigation and let Rosenstein do his job.
 
Old 03-24-2019, 05:36 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Eli34 View Post
Except he was not exonerated for obstruction of justice.
Keep telling yourself that.
 
Old 03-24-2019, 05:38 PM
 
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For there to be obstruction of justice, there has to be a law broken. There wasn't. Case closed.
 
Old 03-24-2019, 05:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
So I have to agree with your spin to read something correctly?

Trump clearly expressed his intent to obstruct justice twice: once to Lavrov and Kisylak, and again to Lester Holt. Both in public and on the record. It doesn't matter what Barr wrote. He is a partisan appointed by the accused, and he chose to ignore Trump's stated purpose to fire Comey to obstruct the investigation.
no I have to put up with your inability to read what Barr actually said.....Barr is not the special counsel....Mueller was....Barr is the attorney that decides the law

" The Special Counsel states that ?while this report does not conclude that I
the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.?


The Special Counsel?s decision to describe the facts of his obstruction investigation
without reaching any legal conclusions leaves it'to the Attorney General to determine whether the
conduct described in the report constitutes a crime. Over the course of the investigation, the
Special Counsel?s of?ce engaged in discussions with certain Department of?cials regarding many
of the legal and factual matters at issue in the Special Counsel?s obstruction investigation. After
reviewing the Special Counsel?s ?nal report on these issues; consulting with Department of?cials,
including the Of?ce of Legal Counsel; and applying the principles of federal prosecution that guide
our charging decisions, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the
evidence developed during the Special Counsel?s investigation is not suf?cient to establish that
the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense. Our determination was made Without
regard to, and is not based on, the constitutional considerations that surround the indictment and
criminal prosecution of a sitting president."

"In making this determination, 'we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that ?the
evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to
Russian election interference,? and that, while not determinative, the absence of such evidence
bears upon the President?s intent with respect to obstruction. Generally speaking, to obtain and
sustain an obstruction conviction, the government would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt
that a person, acting with corrupt intent, engaged in obstructive conduct with a suf?cient nexus to
a pending or contemplated proceeding. In cataloguing the President?s actions, many of which took
place in public View, the report identi?es no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive
conduct
, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent,
each of which, under the Department?s principles of federal prosecution guiding charging
decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-
justice offense."
 
Old 03-24-2019, 05:38 PM
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The dems do protest too much. Says a lot. They need sorted out.
 
Old 03-24-2019, 05:41 PM
 
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The Collusion Delusion. A late stage manifestation of TDS.
 
Old 03-24-2019, 05:42 PM
 
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President Trump should be given 2 extra years as President to make up for the two that the Democrats interfered with his full ability to get even more things done.
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