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View Poll Results: Is Anthropogenic Global Warming real?
Yes 66 49.25%
No 55 41.04%
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:33 PM
 
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I'm confused....
That is because it is anthropogenic climate change, term used since the late 1800s btw, not global warming.

And whats so confusing about it? It is old, basic science. Literally basic, as in Arrhenius. He was publishing on it more than 120 years ago.

Arrhenius, Svante. "XXXI. On the influence of carbonic acid in the air upon the temperature of the ground." The London, Edinburgh, and Dublin Philosophical Magazine and Journal of Science 41, no. 251 (1896): 237-276.

Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas (fact btw), some human activities are increasing its concentration in the atmosphere (fact).

Easy peasy
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:34 PM
 
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The earth heats and cools periodically.
True. That is called the Milankovitch cycle. What is nifty about Milakovitch is that it is due to oribital variations (eccentricity, precession, obliquity and a few others) and we can precisely measure that it is not even a little bit responsible for the current climate change.
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:44 PM
 
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Global humidity has been going down.....the total opposite of global warming theory

http://clivebest.com/blog/wp-content...y300_700mb.jpg
That is a blog. How about some published papers from scientists who actually work in the field in question. Clive Best may have a phd in physics he has never published a single paper on anything related to climate, meterology, any related field or even Physics. In fact the only topic he has ever published on is IT. He is hardly a climate expert.
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/author/38016361900

So lets look at some actual experts.

"Here we use a new quality-controlled and homogenized gridded observational data set of surface humidity, with output from a coupled climate model, to identify and explore the causes of changes in surface specific humidity over the late twentieth century. We identify a significant global-scale increase in surface specific humidity that is attributable mainly to human influence. "

Willett, Katharine M., Nathan P. Gillett, Philip D. Jones, and Peter W. Thorne. "Attribution of observed surface humidity changes to human influence." Nature 449, no. 7163 (2007): 710.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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No debate that

1. The Earth has warmed in the past two centuries

2. CO2 is a greenhouse gas and emitting more would have to result in more warming

The real debate is over how many man made emissions increase warming over what the Earth would go through on its own and how severe actions should be inacted to prevent further warming.
My position also. Well stated and concisely at that. You just misspelled enacted is all I want to point out.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:15 PM
 
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That is a blog. How about some published papers from scientists who actually work in the field in question. Clive Best may have a phd in physics he has never published a single paper on anything related to climate, meterology, any related field or even Physics. In fact the only topic he has ever published on is IT. He is hardly a climate expert.
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/author/38016361900

So lets look at some actual experts.

"Here we use a new quality-controlled and homogenized gridded observational data set of surface humidity, with output from a coupled climate model, to identify and explore the causes of changes in surface specific humidity over the late twentieth century. We identify a significant global-scale increase in surface specific humidity that is attributable mainly to human influence. "

Willett, Katharine M., Nathan P. Gillett, Philip D. Jones, and Peter W. Thorne. "Attribution of observed surface humidity changes to human influence." Nature 449, no. 7163 (2007): 710.
Sounds like a WAG.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:45 PM
 
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That is a blog. How about some published papers from scientists who actually work in the field in question. Clive Best may have a phd in physics he has never published a single paper on anything related to climate, meterology, any related field or even Physics. In fact the only topic he has ever published on is IT. He is hardly a climate expert.
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/author/38016361900

So lets look at some actual experts.

"Here we use a new quality-controlled and homogenized gridded observational data set of surface humidity, with output from a coupled climate model, to identify and explore the causes of changes in surface specific humidity over the late twentieth century. We identify a significant global-scale increase in surface specific humidity that is attributable mainly to human influence. "

Willett, Katharine M., Nathan P. Gillett, Philip D. Jones, and Peter W. Thorne. "Attribution of observed surface humidity changes to human influence." Nature 449, no. 7163 (2007): 710.
Here's the link.... https://www.nature.com/articles/nature06207

your "experts" fed it into a computer model...that told them it went up

NOAA...actually measures it....went down..or has stayed the same

http://www.climate4you.com/images/NO...ingAverage.gif
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:22 PM
 
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It is also not a theory that CO2 levels in the green house gas volume have a saturation limit for absorption, where increasing CO2 has an exponentially decreasing effect on absorption at any of the three major wavelengths that it it is the primary absorption compound. It's a fact.
Doesn't have to be a theory if it's reality.

The fact that we have more than doubled the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere while temperatures have barely budged (if they've moved at all) proves that adding more CO2 will have even less of an effect.
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:27 PM
 
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Looks like even Trump supporters are feeling the effects of climate change. And they want something done.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...action-n985051
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:29 PM
 
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Doesn't have to be a theory if it's reality.

The fact that we have more than doubled the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere while temperatures have barely budged (if they've moved at all) proves that adding more CO2 will have even less of an effect.
I don’t know where you arrived at that conclusion since temperatures have increased over 1deg C in the last century and increased CO2 levels have in fact increased warming, or maybe you still don’t believe that CO2 is a heat trapping gas?
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:31 PM
 
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What right-wing radio talk show did you get [i]this[/i[] from?

Seriously; have you got an actual source, or did you just make the whole thing up on your own?

Better than that, I've got proof!

No one disputes the fact that we have more than doubled atmospheric CO2 levels since the industrial era began, so where is the corresponding warming?
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