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View Poll Results: ARE CHRISTIANS WHO SUPPORT TRUMP MORALLY AND SPIRITUALLY SUPERIOR THAN OTHER DEVOTEES?
Yes 13 14.29%
No 78 85.71%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-28-2019, 10:33 PM
 
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I'm a Trump-supporting evangelical and I think he (as opposed to the media caricature of him) is coming along fine.

I'm not in any position to look down my nose at him so long as he makes a sincere commitment to become a born-again believer.

 
Old 03-28-2019, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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those who support trump are not real actual christians.
fake christians adoring a fake, vindictive, cruel, and vulgar president who loves all the world dictators and turned his back on nato.
 
Old 03-28-2019, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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I'm a Trump-supporting evangelical and I think he (as opposed to the media caricature of him) is coming along fine.

I'm not in any position to look down my nose at him so long as he makes a sincere commitment to become a born-again believer.
Turning a blind eye, obviously. You are without excuse.

 
Old 03-28-2019, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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I agree with everything you wrote. It shows me that Christians are Christians in name only. Most have likely never even read the New Testament and I'm glad that so-called Christians support Trump, as it only exposes these frauds for what they are.
It is not ALL American believers in Christ who support Trump -- it is the evangelical fundamentalists who want a strong man to dictate control over all Americans. This used to be seen for what it is: Communism. But they have been deceived in their zeal to grab power. I don't think Trump is out of the woods, btw. Watch April for possible surprises.
 
Old 03-28-2019, 11:47 PM
 
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Turning a blind eye, obviously. You are without excuse.
Has your own life been Christ-like and without blemish? Because your statement would otherwise have no basis.

The following two propositions are not the same.

"I support Trump in re-Christianizing the institutions in the USA."
"I condone everything bad that Trump has done in the past."
 
Old 03-28-2019, 11:59 PM
 
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For the most part it has been my experience that Christians tend to vote for conservatives leaders, not sure if that includes Trump.
In my experience, EVANGELICALS tend to vote for conservatives. Most Christians I know, and I know mostly non-evangelicals, vote liberal because that supports what they believe about taking care of children, widows, welcoming the foreigner and caring for the sick, homeless and prisoners. That is consistent, we believe, with what Jesus would want us to do.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 12:29 AM
 
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As a Christian, I was lost at mega-church. I've seen some pretty ugly Christians in my time. No one is superior over another.
I have heard pastors preach support for both political parties from the pulpit. There has only been 1 church that I have gone to that has said that even if we don't agree with who are elected officials are, we are to still pray for them. This church was one of the most loving, unconditional, and most accepting churches I have EVER been to.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 12:46 AM
 
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On some level , I understand why he's saying this.

Democrats voted God out of their platform in 2012


They are the supporters of gay agendas and other perversions

They just voted to take "God" out of the oath of office


They continue to vote against providing saving medical care to a baby born alive from a botched abortion!


They are moving to Socialism......a Marxist ideaology. Marxism is Atheistic at it's core.



So you gotta ask yourself as a Christian. Why am I supporting people who hate the things I believe in?




Pastor Jeffries may feel that way....But you still cant say it nor should you think more highly of yourself than you should!
 
Old 03-29-2019, 04:23 AM
 
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On some level , I understand why he's saying this.

Democrats voted God out of their platform in 2012


They are the supporters of gay agendas and other perversions

They just voted to take "God" out of the oath of office


They continue to vote against providing saving medical care to a baby born alive from a botched abortion!


They are moving to Socialism......a Marxist ideaology. Marxism is Atheistic at it's core.



So you gotta ask yourself as a Christian. Why am I supporting people who hate the things I believe in?




Pastor Jeffries may feel that way....But you still cant say it nor should you think more highly of yourself than you should!
There are a number of themes in liberal Christian homiletics that can't be defended scripturally.

1. Personhood and the rights of the unborn.
2. Marriage, gender and sexuality.

3. Sovereignty and borders.
4. Property rights and charity.
5. Biblical conceptions of God's 'chosen' or 'anointed'.

I think most liberal Christians know that there are increasing problems reconciling Democrat policy with scripture on the first two issues.

However, many of them genuinely don't seem to be aware of what the Bible has to say on the other three, thinking Jesus to be a socialist, open-border advocate who would never stoop to anointing flawed individuals or sinners. Reductio ad absurdum:

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"for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me,"

I submit that if Jesus favored open borders and illegal immigration, the verse would have to be re-written as follows:

"for I was hungry and broke into your house and demanded that you give me food, I was thirsty and broke into your house and demanded that you give me drink, I was a stranger and forced my way into your house against your will and you welcomed me"

Dave Armstrong | Borders and the Bible
 
Old 03-29-2019, 04:48 AM
 
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Don't have to wonder why Religious affiliation continues to drop in the USA. Young folks have too much information at their finger tips to believe in silly statements that used to fly in the 80's.
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