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If health care is available, I consider it a right to have it accessible. If someone is living on a desert island, no health care. But if it's available, it's only fair and equal to have it available for all, not just a select few. Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness--Life is often dependent upon health care.
To what extent should this be taken?
If I wake up in the middle of the night with chest pains, do I have the right to knock on any sleeping doctor's door and demand to be treated as a "right"?
What if I live in a remote area?
Do I have a right to be immediately flown via medi-vac helicopter or jet to a major metropolitan area trauma center....at taxpayer's expense?
People don't really take into account all that it could mean when they purport healthcare to be a "right".
AND those were started by a BRITISH philanthropist, otherwise those American folks would have NO care at all.
You tools should be so far up on the SHAME scale you'd dare not compare to any other country over a single feature of their provisions; especially the U.K.
AND those were started by a BRITISH philanthropist, otherwise those American folks would have NO care at all.
You tools should be so far up on the SHAME scale you'd dare not compare to any other country over a single feature of their provisions; especially the U.K.
Ooh, bold print! Put a little damper in the lefty lie, did I?
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They do and its called Medicaid and other programs like disability benefits which has increase dramatically...
I disagree...Just as housing, a job and food is not the obligation of the government. The government can grant incentives to create those things but should not be obligated to create anything but national security.
Agree...see above
Vets get health care because they earned it. Older people get medicare because they paid in years for it and continue to pay for medicare coverage each month with a yearly deductible.
Private insurance has been around longer than dirt. And until the ACA came along and told those that their private HC was inadequate or inferior and forced them to on the ACA... things were basically okay and their HC premiums remained about the same year after year. After just a couple of years, the ACA premiums have sky rocketed so those who were forced off their private insurance are now worst off.
The number of people on medicaid increased dramatically and the number of uninsured has increased and the ACA has not helped them one bit.
One reason for the increase in the uninsured was the raising cost in premiums for the ACA.
The bolded is B.S. from my experience, I had an individual BCBS plan for 5 years prior to the ACA, and my premium went up 15% every year until I could no longer afford the premium, so I had to stop paying and let them cancel my coverage, and then couldn't get insurance again until 2016 when I got an employer subsidized plan
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Private roads. Private schools.
Private schools would equal the majority of kids not getting any education. How many families do you think can afford to pay $10k-$20k per year for private school tuition per kid?
Private healthcare works if nobody is "unemployable".
The private-charity endgame only honest libertarians and conservatives talk about and the liberal spectrum somehow doesn't see will expose a lot of politically-incorrect truths about all people. This is why I support it..
So I can quit paying my property taxes since fire, education, and police labor are an absolute right? Good to know. And people deserve these rights simply because they exist? Sheesh.
F--king entitled socialists. Wow. They really do think they are special. Why do you think you should have right to goods and services that other people must pay for?
Nobody owes you squat!
Wait, you think universal health care would force doctors to work without pay? ROFLMAO!
And yes, of course children have a right to a free and appropriate public education, that is literally what public education is for, and yes teachers are paid. Thank you for proving the point that we can have these things without resorting to slavery.
And you with your hypocrisy, you want to live in a society and not contribute to it at all. All you do is take and take and give nothing back. Shame on the selfish.
There should be no "opting out". You can either opt in or remain free from obligation.
You don't get expelled from a birthing canal into something automatically.
Well, at least that's what us sane folks understand.
#SocialContractIsAsRealAsEasterBunny
If there is no social contract you are entitled to NOTHING this society provides you. Nothing subsidized by tax dollars, things like roads, power lines, internet, protections given by police and firefighters and so on. Feel free to exit society, and the country at any time.
Wait, you think universal health care would force doctors to work without pay? ROFLMAO!
And yes, of course children have a right to a free and appropriate public education, that is literally what public education is for, and yes teachers are paid. Thank you for proving the point that we can have these things without resorting to slavery.
And you with your hypocrisy, you want to live in a society and not contribute to it at all. All you do is take and take and give nothing back. Shame on the selfish.
It costs a lot of money to get educated to be a doctor in America, so basically they're the private rich people doctors. If people can become educated to become doctors in India for practically nothing that it takes in America, let's import them and pay them substantially less than those who've received the "prestigious" American doctorate's education.
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