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View Poll Results: Do you consider healthcare as a right for every citizen a far left position?
Yes, this is far left and extremism 114 42.07%
No, healthcare should be a right, not a privilege 157 57.93%
Voters: 271. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-07-2019, 11:50 AM
 
Location: London
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I consider it an overly authoritarian position antithetical to freedom. No one has the right to the labor of another.


Do you think health care providers would be forced to work without getting paid? That's not the case at all...quite the opposite.

The way universal healthcare generally works is that the staff would be paid as always, but instead of the money coming out of the patients pocket, everyone's costs are dispersed across all of society via taxes. Similar to how schools and police departments work.
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Old 04-07-2019, 11:53 AM
 
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Do you think health care providers would be forced to work without getting paid? That's not the case at all...quite the opposite.

The way universal healthcare generally works is that the staff would be paid as always, but instead of the money coming out of the patients pocket, everyone's costs are dispersed across all of society via taxes. Similar to how schools and police departments work.
So .... money is STILL coming out of the pockets of patients. Sheesh, Can these leftists think at all?
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Old 04-07-2019, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Just in case you missed it...

The constitution guarantees us the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
I'm pretty sure those words were in declaration of independence.
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Old 04-07-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Sheesh, Can these leftists think at all?
They don't dare.

Can you imagine how traumatic it would be to them, to realize that all of their cherished socialistic dreams and plans, won't work?
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Old 04-07-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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I'm pretty sure those words were in declaration of independence.
LOL. Yup.
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Old 04-07-2019, 12:01 PM
 
Location: By The Beach In Maine
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https://twitter.com/STcom/status/1114537563690160129

"Healthcare for all", they say.
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Old 04-07-2019, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I think there should be healthcare for those with terminal conditions, but when someone goes to the hospital because they were stupid and broke a bone or abuses and games the medical system, that's where the line should be drawn.
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Old 04-07-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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"free" isn't free.
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Old 04-07-2019, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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It already is a right. If you go to the hospital, they can't just let you die because you can't pay, they have to treat you.

There's no such thing as a free lunch and there's no such thing as free health care.
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Old 04-07-2019, 12:13 PM
 
Location: New York
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I agree with Joey. However, I still think the government should subsidize healthcare for the poor.

They do, it's called Medicaid. ACA was an expansion of Medicaid and nothing more. It was developed by the insurers to create a windfall for them. Premiums rose and deductibles are outrageous.



Millions lost their plans, lost their doctors, and costs went up $4k a year for a family of four, not down $2500 as promised. The three biggest lies.
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