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Old 04-11-2019, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Well if they wall off the sea and land ports of entry it would work.


One doesn't negate the other.
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Old 04-11-2019, 05:45 AM
 
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Uh, no. Telling the DoD: "I'm taking this already-appropriated-money for this other thing, with no Congressional approval." is absolutely stealing.

You need a refresher in Civics 101!
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Old 04-11-2019, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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And next time the Pentagon seeks more $$$ for an already bloated budget, let them seek more funds from it's never audited/held accountable existing $$$.
We could also throw some of the fat asses on food stamps off the program until they are once again able to shop without an electric cart.

If you are too fat to push a traditional shopping cart, I don't need to pay for your food.
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Old 04-11-2019, 05:55 AM
 
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It’s being diverted from projects like this:

“The commandant of the Marine Corps hopes the Pentagon and Congress can find money for hurricane damage repairs at Camp Lejeune, N.C., despite military construction funding being diverted for the Trump Administration’s border security plan.”


https://news.usni.org/2019/02/17/nel...order-spending

"to replace old buildings that were damaged by Hurricane Florence last September."

Let this sink in, 3.5 BILLION.

This is one reason we are in so much debt.

The Sea Bees and the Army Corps of Engineers and do it for 1/10the cost BUT, Congress won't let them.The labor unions do NOT like it and THEY give a LOT of money to dem politicians.

Funny, we can build schools, hospital, and housing and every thing else all over the world before and after disasters BUT we can't rebuild our OWN.
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Old 04-11-2019, 06:02 AM
 
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For the money spent on illegals otherwise, view the wall as an INVESTMENT.

Think about it, all the liberal states that extend them free healthcare, food stamps, and assisted housing at the tax payers expense while they do not work or work under the table, pay no taxes, and do not contribute anything back to the system. Even CBP merely detaining, processing, and returning those caught crossing the border illegally costs millions if not billions annually.

As a bonus, reducing the drug smuggling, sex trade, crime, murder, theft, and everything else that happens along our southern border, is PRICELESS.

To those so against the wall, try putting yourself in someone else's shoes. You, your loved one, relative, or friend that would still be here if their life hadn't been taken by someone who shouldn't have been here.

Still wanna argue? Why, and who are you, if you want to discount all that I've touched on above?

" [CENTER][CENTER]LARGEST INSANE ASYLUM IN THE WORLD[/CENTER][/CENTER]

Interesting that the LA Times did this. All the others are staying away from it.Whether you are a Democrat or Republican, this should be of great interest to you!

Just One State - be sure and read the last part... try for 3 times.

This is only one State... If this doesn't open your eyes, nothing will!

From the LA. Times:

1.40% of all workers in LA County (10.2 million people) are working for cash; and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.(Donald Trump was right)

2. 95%of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.


3.75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.


4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.


5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals; they are here illegally.


6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.


7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.


8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.


9. 21 radio stations in LA are Spanish-speaking.


10. In LA County, 5.1 million peoplespeak English; 3.9 million, speak Spanish. (There are 10.2 million people, in LA County.

(All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2%of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.
Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth, (and over 90%of California, Florida, and New York), results from immigration.
Also, 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

We are fools for letting this continue.

This is only one State...If this doesn't open your eyesnothing will, and you, and you wonder why Nancy Pelosi wants them to become voters!
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Old 04-11-2019, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Not nearly as easily as simply walking across it. You're living in a fantasy land if you think there is no difference between a wall and no wall.
I lived in Miami. There was only sharks. Still they came. The northern Canadian border has more coming in. The overstays are the larger problem and nobody talks shyte about Everify to really stop the flow. 90% come to work!!!!!! El Salvador min wage is like $30 a mo - panama which is doing better $4 a hr -and so forth. They stop the aid expect more hungry people at our gates.
Reality is I have seen with my own eyes,
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Old 04-11-2019, 07:13 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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You need a refresher in Civics 101!


No, I don't. It's pretty obvious that I'm referring to "stealing" from a moral perspective, not a legal one.
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Old 04-11-2019, 07:16 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I've already addressed everything including your assumptions about this. Are you going to beat this dead horse to death in here?


Is that your passive aggressive way of saying we'll agree to disagree? I sincerely hope it is.
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Old 04-11-2019, 07:42 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Let's continue to #MAGA!
Trumps immigration policies threaten the very backbone of Americas technological advancement.

Immigrants start 24% of America's new high tech companies, immigrants file over 60% of Americas high tech patents, and immigrants founded 20% of America's Inc. 500 companies.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a5dc238f4c65

"44% of U.S. engineering and technology startup companies based in Silicon Valley were founded by immigrants."
"More than 40% of the international patent applications filed by the U.S. government had foreign-national authors."
Why Trump

"Immigrants Are Behind More Than Three-Quarters of Patents From The Top Ten Patent-Producing American Universities."
Press Release: New Study Reveals Immigrants Are Behind More Than Three-Quarters of Patents From Top Ten Patent-Producing American Universities - New American Economy

And "35%-40% of new firms have at least one immigrant entrepreneur connected to the firm’s creation."
https://hbr.org/2016/10/immigrants-p...trepreneurship


And because of Trump's actions immigrants are now going to other countries.

Already "Canadian startups are attracting more international workers thanks to Trump’s immigration policies."
https://www.recode.net/2018/3/28/171...ation-policies

And today the foreign inventors who start so many high tech American companies are going to Canada to start their new companies.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43930491


The thing that makes America the country of the greatest technological innovation is immigrants, and Trumps policies are already sending immigrants, their patents, their inventions, and the businesses they create to other countries.

Last edited by chad3; 04-11-2019 at 09:08 AM..
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Old 04-11-2019, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Embarrassing, WA
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Trumps immigration policies threaten the very backbone of Americas technological advancement.

Immigrants start 24% of America's new high tech companies, immigrants file over 60% of Americas high tech patents, and immigrants founded 20% of America's Inc. 500 companies.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a5dc238f4c65

"44% of U.S. engineering and technology startup companies based in Silicon Valley were founded by immigrants."
"More than 40% of the international patent applications filed by the U.S. government had foreign-national authors."
Why Trump

"Immigrants Are Behind More Than Three-Quarters of Patents From The Top Ten Patent-Producing American Universities."
Press Release: New Study Reveals Immigrants Are Behind More Than Three-Quarters of Patents From Top Ten Patent-Producing American Universities - New American Economy

And "35%-40% of new firms have at least one immigrant entrepreneur connected to the firm’s creation."
https://hbr.org/2016/10/immigrants-p...trepreneurship


And because of Trump's actions immigrants are now going to other countries.

Already "Canadian startups are attracting more international workers thanks to Trump’s immigration policies."
https://www.recode.net/2018/3/28/171...ation-policies

And today the foreign inventors who start so many high tech American companies are going to Canada to start their new companies.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43930491


The thing that makes America the country of the greatest technological innovation is immigrants, and Trumps policies are already sending immigrants, their patents, their inventions, and the businesses they create to other countries.

I don't see "illegal immigrant" in there anywhere. Go back far enough, and we are almost all immigrants.
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