Yes I'm sure all those unborn children are screaming in the skies cursing that their mama got rid of them.
Yes you're right the wording is a bit off but it's along those same lines. The fetus existed but it wasn't sentient. It's no worse than killing a bug at that point of development.
I can only imagine how many MORE messed up families there would be if people were forced to carry to term. Often times a woman will stay with a man just because they had a child with him. She'll be even more likely to stay with him if she never wanted them in the first place.
I don't know how many are legit but birth control is not a walk in the park either. I'm not sure why but biology does not make it easy to not have a child. The only foolproof birth control is abstinence. The IUD is the most effective but it can take over a year to get used to it if it even works out for you. The worst part about that is if you happen to get pregnant it can easily end up being more dangerous. I don't blame anyone for being eerie about using birth control. It can be just as scary as becoming pregnant or having a termination. Anything involving a change in your body like that is all overwhelming/scary so it's easy in that moment to make the wrong choice so a termination is a way of making it right. Considering that if they do end up getting pregnant despite getting birth control, they definitely deserve that right because coercing them would be saying that they struggled for nothing only to struggle for another 9 months +.
Looking at it on an outside point of view, I would tell my mom to not have me because my father doesn't deserve to care for someone else. He doesn't even have the desire to take care of himself.
I can't imagine having a mother that didn't want you. That kid would likely be f'ed up for life maybe even worse than I had it.
If I had a nickel for everytime someone justified against something because it's not normal...
People say being bi/gay is not normal. It doesn't mean it's bad.
Being neurodivergent is not normal. Does that mean you want to literally change people's brain wiring into conformity? I wouldn't be surprised if you do because some people do believe in that which only makes the argument even less credible.
Something more related it's not normal to get your teeth pulled especially your permanent but people do that everyday too because probably terminations are just as common as that. (I only had to get my molar pulled..the other was a baby but it still felt weird and omg the cracking sound that definitely is not normal) My life will never be the same perhaps in a smaller way but I know my molar had to come out. It should have never happened. I should have been able to keep it but I know my mouth was better off for it just like that fetus is most likely better off never being born.
Maybe they don't want to look at wombs period. I don't find ultrasounds particularly cool to look at. I'm glad they didn't show me my tooth in a jar. I wouldn't want to look at that either. You have to admit most of us look like aliens until we reach a certain age (especially in the womb). Even animal babies look kinda weird until they start growing hair.
The only reason I want to look at the spot now is to see how it's healing but I find the human body to often to be a disgusting place. I have watched House, ER and The Good Doctor but I always look away when they show what they're doing. If I ever have children, I won't want to see the baby AT ALL until they clean them up real good *shudders*
I agree they don't have any responsibility somehow. They do whatever they want and not have to deal with the consequences. They don't have to worry about a pill shot possible pregnancy etc. If they screw up with the rubber who gets to deal with it?
There's always a risk when you have sex but life is a risk unfortunately. Being afraid of risks all the time is no way to live. I should know. I'm often afraid to take risks even if it's small and I'm trying not to do that. Should I never learn to drive a car because I might get in an accident? You drive in your car not thinking too hard about it (which is the healthy way to be) but the reality is you get into that car someone could die today because of you and it won't be a fetus but a fully formed person. All it takes is one wrong move. Life is dangerous. You should always be considerate when you can to people who deserve it but that doesn't mean that we should sit there and not ever do what we want to do because of something that might happen? Minimizing risks are important but not to the point it takes all the enjoyment out of it. That's actually where I'm at right now. I want to have popcorn at the movies but I fear my mouth won't be ready. If it's healing up now what am I even worrying about it? That's like a week away and I'm already sitting here worrying about the husks getting caught in the hole. How about I worry about that if and when it happens? I'm sure you'd be sitting here thinking the same thing telling me I'm stupid for worrying about something that hasn't even happened yet and I should just shut up and enjoy that mouth watering buttery goodness. I feel the same way about sex. If you want to have sex with someone and you've taken precautions do it. I shudder to think of people who say the risk isn't worth it because they must be worse at living life than me and that's pretty sad.
Those little pieces of rubber are a joke. The only thing they are for really is prevention against STDs but even then I would keep it in mind that I might be risking an STD for him. There should be more options for men to block his sperm (like an equivalent of an IUD)
Who knows why they get an abortion? They might not tell you but they might have a good reason for it. You're assuming that 98.5 percent of abortions are all not due to sexual abuse but you're trusting reports. The reality is most likely it's more common than you think because a lot of rape incidents aren't reported. It's a very shameful thing to admit even though it shouldn't be because she didn't do anything wrong but that's often how she would feel about it.
Probably because suicide is one of those things where they want to know they are important. I'm told that the majority of people are hesitating which is why they are reaching out to others. They want to be talked out of it. People who want to commit suicide usually just do it in secret.
Not sure on the public nudity thing. Personally I probably wouldn't look and porn itself doesn't interest me but I wouldn't make a law saying you can't do it. Unless I don't like you I don't complain about seeing women's boobs despite mostly being straight. I made a joke about Christina showing hers on the Voice but I actually didn't care. It would have been weird if she didn't really.
Heroin hurts the person doing it. If I care about you I won't want you to do it because I don't want anything to happen to you. The ability to choose abortion on the other hand helps the woman.
Smoking hurts the person doing it AND the people around them whereas a termination only affects one non developed organism.
I have had similar too so it is pretty funny to me. They don't necessarily want us aborted though. They want us to live and suffer. Many of those same people are against government welfare period or anything similar. They're consistent yet hypocritical at the same time. I say consistent because their philosophy all around is if you make one wrong choice in life you don't deserve a "bail out". College is a good example. If you go to the wrong school/have the wrong studies you deserve to struggle. So when they say they're pro-life they are pro-punishment. But of course they'll tell you all day that is not their intention they care about that fetus. I wonder how they feel about people who get pets and then dump them for no other reason that they grew up because they're indirectly saying it's okay to love a dog/cat until they are grown.
How is that even scientifically possible?
I'm sure that's what they're encouraging which is an illogical way to address that statement.
Your mother sounds a bit like him. He never called. I always had to call him when I did see him. Well he never said that he wasn't proud of me but it was obvious in his actions. If he felt that way he would be too cowardly to say it. He would joke that I was a stalker and boy crazy.
I enjoy some things about life and most of the time I've never had suicidal thoughts but I do often wish I was someone else. Sometimes I sit and think about what would happen if my mom had terminated? Maybe I'd still be born but I'd have other parents and be me but be a likeable version of myself. It depends on how you feel about souls. I do think reincarnation is possible but despite that I still have thanatophobia because even if that were the outcome what if you come back as a bug or something?
On that note the d word is another reason why I don't believe in having unwanted children. The unwanted child has no way out. They are probably more likely to be stuck because maybe they'll be afraid to die but not want to live either. I'd much rather the child never live at all than to be trapped in a life they never asked for. That's the thing they don't want the woman to have a choice because that's not fair to the fetus but the fetus still doesn't get to choose and instead gets forced to be on earth.
Maybe they believe the fetus has a soul. A lot of pro lifers are religious I've gathered. Even with a soul it's still a clump of cells to me too personally. The soul in question can just be reborn or stay whereever unborn souls go and would still be better off.
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