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Old 04-26-2019, 08:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Trump is trying to overthrow our Constitutional form of government.

Constitution is clear on separation of powers and the House's oversight role. Trump's doing everything he can think of to undermine that.

He's the one attempting a coup.
In which ways is he trying to overthrow constitutional government? You can't can you, because it's a talking point you memorized without any basis.

 
Old 04-26-2019, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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It was and a lot of Obama officials are going to jail. He was right so I’m not sure why this is even a thread for discussion?

At this point anyone who can’t put this altogether is not being intellectually honest with themselves or do not have the intellectual capacity to grasp it.

1) Hillary investigation was a scam
2) Obama’s department of justice committed treason and attempted to take down a sitting president via a coupe. This should concern EVERYONE!

Horowitz will start the ball rolling with his investigation of Hillary’s paid for Russian document that was used to start this scam. From there it’s all down hill for Lynch, Hillary, Comey, Rosenstein and the lot.

It’s going to be really ugly and they will be going to prison.

What’s not clear?
 
Old 04-26-2019, 08:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
He calls the Mueller investigation "an attempted coup to overthrow the government!"


"They tried for a coup, it didn't work out so well. And I didn't need a gun for that one, did I?" Trump told the crowd of gun-rights advocates at the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting in Indianapolis on Friday. "All was taking place at the highest levels in Washington, D.C. You've been watching, you've been seeing.”
"Spying, surveillance. Trying for an overthrow," Trump continued. "And we caught them, we caught them. Who would have thought in our country?"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...didn-t-n998986

This kind of inflammatory rhetoric can be dangerous, as he's planted a seed in tiny Trumpling minds.

Kinda like if I said, "Don't think of an orange swine."

That image instantly pops into mind.

It was. Didn't need PRESIDENT TRUMP to tell the American people that. Most of us already knew that from the start.
 
Old 04-26-2019, 08:46 PM
 
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Drama... A coup would be an attempt (usually violently by the military arm) to overthrow the entire government.... Trump is not the entire government. Investigation and possible impeachment doesn't equate to a coup... no more than Nixon's presidency ended in a coup.

If anything.. Pence would have been sworn in as president and things continue on.... pretty much very little governing would have changed.
A coup d'état (/ˌkuː deɪˈtɑː/ (About this soundlisten); French: [ku deta]), also known as a putsch (/pʊtʃ/), a golpe, or simply as a coup, means the overthrow of an existing government; typically, this refers to an illegal, unconstitutional seizure of power by a dictator, the military, or a political faction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
 
Old 04-26-2019, 08:48 PM
 
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...if it looks like a coup...and quacks like a coup
Why is investigating a president with ties to a hostile foreign government a coup? Even is own DOJ was suspicious. If it were a coup, would to God it had worked.
 
Old 04-26-2019, 08:51 PM
 
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It was and a lot of Obama officials are going to jail. He was right so I’m not sure why this is even a thread for discussion?

At this point anyone who can’t put this altogether is not being intellectually honest with themselves or do not have the intellectual capacity to grasp it.

1) Hillary investigation was a scam
2) Obama’s department of justice committed treason and attempted to take down a sitting president via a coupe. This should concern EVERYONE!

Horowitz will start the ball rolling with his investigation of Hillary’s paid for Russian document that was used to start this scam. From there it’s all down hill for Lynch, Hillary, Comey, Rosenstein and the lot.

It’s going to be really ugly and they will be going to prison.

What’s not clear?
What started this "scam" was loud mouth Papadopoulous.

The DOJ was staffed with Republicans. So you might want to blame the "coup" on them. A Republican DOJ deputy attorney general appointed a Republican special counsel. I didn't see any Dems in that mix.
 
Old 04-26-2019, 08:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
He calls the Mueller investigation "an attempted coup to overthrow the government!"
He's right. And it's still going on.
 
Old 04-26-2019, 08:59 PM
 
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Why is investigating a president with ties to a hostile foreign government a coup?
It's illegal to investigate people just for the hell of it.
 
Old 04-26-2019, 09:03 PM
 
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Old Gringo has to be forgiven for his ignorance. He only watches BSNBC and Conspiracy News Network so he lives in a fantasy world.

He doesn't know, among many other things, that the Obama White House started the Russian Collusion story in January 2016 before Trump got the nomination. They had Ukraine dig up old dirt about Paul Manafort while at the same time hiding their own guy Greg Craig's part in the same shenanigans. Both Manafort and Craig have been indicted now.
 
Old 04-26-2019, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by Crossfire600 View Post
It was and a lot of Obama officials are going to jail. He was right so I’m not sure why this is even a thread for discussion?

At this point anyone who can’t put this altogether is not being intellectually honest with themselves or do not have the intellectual capacity to grasp it.

1) Hillary investigation was a scam
2) Obama’s department of justice committed treason and attempted to take down a sitting president via a coupe. This should concern EVERYONE!

Horowitz will start the ball rolling with his investigation of Hillary’s paid for Russian document that was used to start this scam. From there it’s all down hill for Lynch, Hillary, Comey, Rosenstein and the lot.

It’s going to be really ugly and they will be going to prison.

What’s not clear?
I am intellectually honest enough and have the intellectual capacity to grasp the fact that this post is beyond the pale.
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