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Trump wants a diversion. He sent John Bolton, a long time war hawk, who has been pushing for war with Iran for twenty years. (I think Iran made fun of Bolton's mustache or something like that). Just like with the Gulf of Tonkin and the Weapons of Mass Destruction false flags, the US, under the Hitler-act-alike Trump, has decided to do another false flag on Iran. This one is all about oil. Once again the current American motto is flying high on the mast, "Money before life."
It is difficult to believe that a country 1/5 the size of the US would initiate a war especially after suffering years of sanctions imposed by the US causing massive suffering among all of Iranians. It's all bull. Even the trumpsters can't spin this one. By no means am I defending Iran, but to instigate another war with any country is pure insanity. (Look who's in charge). Trump's one term will add another 12 trillion to the debt. In Iraq trillions were wasted and the same with Afghanistan which has become a bottomless pit of wasted American dollars. The US cannot afford a war with any country. Far more important will be the loss of lives. How many of you are willing to let you children and grandchildren die in another useless false flag war? You better also know that Russia and China both have a interest in what happens in Iran. Think about it.
There will be no war with Iran. That would hurt the economy, tank the stock market, and drive oil prices through the roof. Things Trump has succeeded with would be destroyed. No way he wants a war.
Guys like Trump though...they cannot foresee those things...they think they are unstoppable, and everything they do will be a great success. Its been the downfall of many great leaders over the years.
From what ive read lately, and considering Irans allies, Iran is one of the few nations, that if we went to war with them, they could have troops on US soil!
If he does something that stupid like attacking Iran... "send his kids in first" !!!!
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We are wasting time playing "war games", thinking as if we are still the 1945 America... when by the 1960's that ride was already weakening. Then when the Viet Nam Waste became so excessive, we got off the Gold Standard... and things escalated into "dizzy world"... For the past 18 yrs, we've been fighting nothing but loosing wars, and still pushing the bully madness.... while the rest of the world is building cooperative agreements.
Trump could do nothing to Saudi, after their killing of the Reporter, because !!!! it was Saudi Arabia, who made the initial and original agreement that led to the selling of Oil on the International market, to be done so in "U.S. Dollars", better known as the Petro Dollars that has given us the ability to "print money on demand"...
China and Other Nation are well aware of this, Qaddafi and Saddam, were considered extreme enemies more so because they were promoting the concepts and ideals to "unpeg" oil from the U.S. dollar... It was well known that Saddam did not have WMD's, it was a matter that he was tired of the sanctions, and Iraq has the thickest crude in the world, and he wanted to find support to unpeg it to the dollar, so they could market without U.S. interference. This is the stuff that is never told to the general public in mass media. Iran will be the next to push the change, and if people noted, the Europeans already set up a Financial Mechanism where Iran can sell it Oil, without having to deal with U.S. Sanctions, that why so much drama is spun about Iran.
Can you say "Tonkin Gulf"?
I seriously doubt the deed is as reported as well as the accusation that Iran is dumb enough to sabotage oil tankers near the Strait of Hormuz. The Strait is over 20 miles wide but the shipping lanes are constricted to about four miles wide for tankers. It would be fairly easy to close off the strait stopping 20% of global petroleum shipping. One of the ships is Norwegian. Is Norway preparing to go to war over this? No one can even say what happened with any certainty. The ships were mysteriously damaged somehow off the port of Fujairah. That's about all we know and reports are confused. This seems familiar but there are a lot of players in this episode.
Excerpts from the Jerusalem Post - Middle East May 13, 2019 15:58
"As tensions rose over the weekend between the US and Iran in the Persian Gulf, several vessels were “sabotaged” off the coast of the United Arab Emirates. Both Iranian media and the UAE reported the incident, but 24 hours after it happened, much of what occurred was still shrouded in mystery, with allegations of “explosions” and questions about how severe the “sabotage” actually was.
The Saudi energy minister confirmed that two of its oil tankers were targeted in a “sabotage attack.” It took place as the tankers were “on their way to the Arabian Gulf” via the Emirate of Fujairah, the statement said. The UAE said that in total four boats were damaged. The UAE’s The National claimed that “Iranian and Lebanese media outlets aired false reports of explosions.”
The same reports in the UAE said the tankers had been on their way to the US after being loaded with Saudi oil. No one was hurt, the UAE said.
The Iranians are also warning of conspiracies involving “foreign” players. Iran’s Press TV speculated that the sabotage might have been due to drones from Yemen or even the US “dropping bombs to ignite the region.” Tensions between the US and Iran escalated in recent days with Iranian officials threatening the US and the US sending a variety of forces to the region, including bolstering its aircraft carrier strike force in the Gulf. The US has warned that Iran or its allies could target ships in the region.
Conflicting reports appear to provide contradictory stories. Pro-Iranian media initially claimed that there had been explosions and a fire at the Fujairah tanker terminal. But later reports about the “sabotage” downplayed what had happened and pointed to something occurring at sea in the Gulf of Oman, either on the way to Fujairah or merely passing the area at sea. Fujairah is situated on the Gulf of Oman around 10 kilometers from the Oman border. Ships that arrive there don’t have to navigate the Strait of Hormuz, they can arrive from the Indian Ocean and then leave without going into the Persian Gulf.
The official UAE statement says that the incident took place “near UAE territorial waters in the Gulf of Oman, east of Fujairah.” The website Maritime Bulletin notes that “it didn’t happen in port, but on outer anchorage.” A map of oil tankers currently off the coast shows them anchored several kilometers off Fujairah. The site points out that fire boats were not dispatched to aid those tankers, meaning reports of a fire were mistaken. But what is “significant damage” that was apparently inflicted after the “sabotage,” which is what Riyadh says happened?"
good advice telling people to get their kids sent to military prison.
Better than having them in body bags or much much worse, a double amputee, with permanent scar tissue from 3rd degree burns for the rest of their lives.
I've got one son.....and there's not a chance in hell he's going to be maimed or killed for the Star of David.
The end of line is the average American. All they/we need to do is stand up and say NO. If enough people have the guts to say NO. NO, hell NO, its over...they'll crumble to the ground.
There's much more honor in doing the right thing instead of being a lap dog for Israel and Saudi Arabia.
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Many young people have learned from the mess in Iraq and Afghanistan, that it is not to their benefit to go to the Middle East to Get damaged and harmed because of some Political Driven Madness from Any Administration. Especially not to protect the wealth of the Oil Barron's and not to back and support the continual encroachments that Israel is well known for having done and continuing to do.
These Adversarial bigots in this Administrator care about nothing more than pushing "Imperialist Styled Aggression", as we seen nothing but rising contention "about everything" with "everyone, both domestically and Internationally".
Many of the International locations are working to try and build and rebuild their economy and address their citizen concerns within their nations. We don't see them "screaming at Iran"... we don't see them plotting against Afghanistan, and we don't see them rushing to Central America to create and start conflicts or impose themselves in ways that escalates madness.
There is no International Support for any acts of American created and America led Aggression's in any part of the world.
The world of nations have not forgot and will not soon forget the mess that destabilized the Middle East, with the American led invasion of Iraq and they certainly are not supporting any aggressive acts into Iran.
The Europeans already set up a financial system that can handle "exports of oil" from Iran... and they did it to show they are not going to back any American sanctions against Iran's exportation of Oil. China is not going to stop buying Oil, just because American can't control it. Other nation still support the deal they made with Iran about WMD's and they are not going to abandon that, just because America wants to increase tensions and continue pretending its the 1940's style of dominant power.
ALL THE WORLD KNOWS... America has $22 TRILLION IN DEBT, over a Trillion in Deficit, and operates at 105% of its GDP.... They see the political craziness in America, they see the rise in Racist Ignorance in America, and they see the inhumane acts that have been done to the Mexican and Central America People.... They see the Drug Culture in America, and they see attacks this Administration has done to Social Programs, Environmental Programs, and ALL THE WORLD KNOWS.. The American Stock Market is riding on 'nothing more than "the frenzy of the trade"... with no real and tangible industry to back up the "over inflated stock ticker game". They can wait out the Trade Mess, and watch it strip the working poor of financial resources... and they know that "inflation" is already underway in America. The only thing holding down the Interest Rates is "the printing of money" that is backed by nothing tangible, and reliant on Foreign Nations to "buy the debt" when we have to borrow by printing more money and selling more debt, to pay the Interest Payments on what we owe.
The Global Nation is not blind, unaware and ignorant... and they are and have been looking for and looking at way to make the transfer from the Dollar to add in a competing currency that takes a higher in competing with the Dollar , and they know doing so can within a decade or so, and maybe less... use the competing currency to offset the usage of the Dollar.
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The 15 Countries include Germany, Canada, Sweden, Indonesia, Australia and Malaysia, countries that have close trading ties with China or have been aggressively promoting yuan business.
Fifty of the 161 countries that exchanged payments with mainland China and Hong Kong last month used the yuan for more than 10 per cent of their payments, including the biggest cheerleaders for yuan globalisation such as Singapore and Britain.
The currency is now used for 11.2 per cent of total payments with mainland China and Hong Kong, up from 6.2 per cent 18 months ago.
People better stop falling for the Bluster and Propaganda of " Current U.S. Administration's Contention Creation" and pay attention to the "truths that exist'... in the reality of the global community. 57 Countries also have joined the (AIIB)... and the U.S. and it's influence of the IMF and the World Bank... is not of the strength that it had post World War II... and the world is well aware of the 'desperation of America, to continue to promote itself as if it still has that power, and imperialist dominance".
China has OUT-BUILT us 1000:1 and they have uplifted more of their people economically, than the entire volume of the American population. They are focused on doing more and making more of their people into viable consumers of what China produces, They play a long game, they've built up many things, some today are empty, but they have plans to transition their people from the areas of dilapidation into these localities within the next decade. Yet, we are not paying close attention and we are blinded by the "delusions of superiority as person", which means we have a lesser respect for the people of these nation, yet, it does not mean they have a lesser respect of themselves.
We are a "import consumer nation"... and no matter how one tries to deny it, all they have to do is look about their homes, and even pay attention to the fact their attire, their shoes, their appliances, their computer and their phones, IS NOT made in America!!!! the American OBSESSION with "internet shopping" is driven by nothing but "buying of imports' and much of it is done with "credit".... As the personal debt of each citizen rises far beyond what can be repaid. We have overpriced housing, and that which is not overpriced is in "decaying communities" with no industry to generate income to rebuild them.
Those are simple "truths"..... which tell us... we need to get off the "bias, bigotry, bully stomping and race divisiveness and become people who respect each other and work together to build and push the wealthy to not hide "American currency offshore" but to re-invest it in America. Because when America is weakened, so is the Currency... People forget that Currency is a "government 'exchange" instrument", and when it does not perform that responsibility in America, not only does American decline, the value of that "governmental exchange instrument, known as Currency, that we call by the name the "Dollar" .... becomes weakened.
People can ignore the commentary, attack it, deny it, or what ever delights them, but it does not and will not change "truths and facts"
It's Wake UP Time in America and Time For American's to Respect Each Others... and Learn how to work together as American's. and get past this "self destructive political bias and bigotry game"
Trumps tough guy act may have worked in North Korea but Iran isn’t playing the game. Bolton is itching for a war, from a guy who dodged the draft like Trump. See a pattern here?
There will be no war with Iran. That would hurt the economy, tank the stock market, and drive oil prices through the roof. Things Trump has succeeded with would be destroyed. No way he wants a war.
And absolutely, positively......any war would be a precarious issue for Trump in the next election.
Base will vote for him no matter what (as would the Dem base for a Democrat)....but the moderate, swing voters, not committed to the party or man, and those voters would probably not support a war.
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