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Old 06-07-2019, 07:23 AM
 
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You would think the Black Community would be up in arms over the issue. They use much of the limited resources such as Housing and Blue Collar jobs in Construction, hold down wages that affect many people (Black and White) on the lower end of the working spectrum.

Money in our schools goes to funding programs for Kids who don't even speak English or never been in school. That money could be better used for American Citizens to lift them out of the no education cycle.

But the Black vote is locked so no need to worry.
I got no comment on this.

Illegal immigration hurts the black community the most. It is the single biggest issue for the blacks.

Yet, 90% of them still vote for Democrats.

 
Old 06-07-2019, 07:31 AM
 
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I got no comment on this.

Illegal immigration hurts the black community the most. It is the single biggest issue for the blacks.

Yet, 90% of them still vote for Democrats.
Because it’s all about the “free” stuff. Cut it off and the lefts voting base evaporates.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 07:34 AM
 
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I got no comment on this.

Illegal immigration hurts the black community the most. It is the single biggest issue for the blacks.

Yet, 90% of them still vote for Democrats.
As long as they can get free stuff from the Democrats many don't care about illegal immigration. Some of them feel a comaraderie with the illegals because they are minorities like themselves and would like nothing better than to see the continued dilution of the white race in our country.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 07:38 AM
 
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We have illegal immigration because that’s what’s good for Big Business: it helps drive down wages.

We continue to have illegal immigration forever, because both political parties are bought and paid for by Big Business.
There is a two-fold reason with the Democrats though. As long a they don't secure the border and keep promising amnesty for illegal aliens they are retaining the ethnocentric Hispanic citizen vote. They know full well that when the children of illegal aliens become adults they will also vote Democrat. Changing our country demographically, politically and culturally is to their advantage.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Originally Posted by Rakin View Post
You would think the Black Community would be up in arms over the issue. They use much of the limited resources such as Housing and Blue Collar jobs in Construction, hold down wages that affect many people (Black and White) on the lower end of the working spectrum.

Money in our schools goes to funding programs for Kids who don't even speak English or never been in school. That money could be better used for American Citizens to lift them out of the no education cycle.

But the Black vote is locked so no need to worry.





I agree. We should all be up in arms and the Black community should be leading the charge since they have the most to lose with this unchecked illegal immigration.

Traditionally many service jobs are held by black folks and what is going to happen when amnesty is granted to the 20 plus million illegals that are already here and they then have no barrier to enter the work force? We all know that amnesty is coming as soon as the Dems are back in power.

You are also right about the schools. Our taxes are always going up to fund the schools (its for the children). It's a never ending cycle where legal citizen minorities are forced to the back of the classroom.



Trump is trying to stop illegal immigration that would help the black community and other legal minority groups but they can't see past what they have been told that Trump is a racist...
 
Old 06-07-2019, 08:11 AM
 
Location: USA
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There is a two-fold reason with the Democrats though. As long a they don't secure the border and keep promising amnesty for illegal aliens they are retaining the ethnocentric Hispanic citizen vote. They know full well that when the children of illegal aliens become adults they will also vote Democrat. Changing our country demographically, politically and culturally is to their advantage.
Of course.

And they get the added benefit of massive campaign contributions from Big Ag and other industries that profit from illegal immigration. The Democrats can work against the public interest while securing a guaranteed voting bloc.

It’s the exact same dynamic in the Republican Party: convince angry white men that THEIR country is being stolen from them by women and minorities, and you secure a guaranteed voting bloc, even if you work against their interests.

Ain’t America great?
 
Old 06-07-2019, 08:15 AM
 
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I agree. We should all be up in arms and the Black community should be leading the charge since they have the most to lose with this unchecked illegal immigration.

Traditionally many service jobs are held by black folks and what is going to happen when amnesty is granted to the 20 plus million illegals that are already here and they then have no barrier to enter the work force? We all know that amnesty is coming as soon as the Dems are back in power.

You are also right about the schools. Our taxes are always going up to fund the schools (its for the children). It's a never ending cycle where legal citizen minorities are forced to the back of the classroom.



Trump is trying to stop illegal immigration that would help the black community and other legal minority groups but they can't see past what they have been told that Trump is a racist...

You're right with your last sentence. They are gullibly listening to the liberal left that Trump is a racist. Blacks who want to work should be up in arms over their replacement on blue-collared jobs by illegal aliens. Those who don't want to work don't care because the Democrats will take care of them via welfare handouts.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 08:21 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Maybe the pro-illegals will stop challenging my link to FAIR which also provides the costs of illegal immigration since it's from another source now. Naw, they'll still remain in eternal denial.
The source is the Washington Times, so no....they won't believe it.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Central Washington
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This article leaves alot out. It doesnt even balance how much illegals pay in taxes, nor does it talk about how much they spend in this economy, nor does it talk about how much money goes to social security that they cannot claim. Its biased nonsense.
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“The amount of taxes that the parents pay on their earnings, that they pay through property taxes — passed through on their rent — it’s not going to be as much as is spent on public education for their kids and food stamps for their kids.”
It didn't mention how much they drive wages down either, or the billions they send out of the country, $69 billion in 2016 alone. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...oney-than-ever

There was also no mention of the massive amount of ID fraud occurring.Between 2012-2016, 39 million name and SSN mismatches have been discovered. Nor did it mention the illegal alien convicted in March for fraudulently receiving more than $242,000 in Social Security benefits.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/illega...s_2953787.html

And not a word about the highest cost of illegal immigration, the many thousands of deaths, assaults, rapes, and countless other crimes that wouldn't have happened if the illegal aliens who committed them hadn't been here.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 08:46 AM
 
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...and-its-not-a/


Nice breakdown. Nice some actual journalism remains!

Ok, you have given the negative side of immigration, both legal and illegal, so let me give you some FACTS about the positives of immigration:

1) Immigrants are 14% of the total population of the U.S, but they started 1/4 of the new businesses in this country.

2) Immigrants earned over 1/3 of the Nobel Prizes in science given to those affiliated with U.S Universities.

3) One in four tech companies established in the U.S from 1995 to 2005 was founded by an immigrant, or who was the CEO, president, or chief technology officer.

4) About 71% if Silicon Valley tech workers are immigrants.

5) Of the 25 biggest public tech companies, 60% were founded by immigrants or their children. These are people like Steve Jobs, and Sergey Brin, of Google.

6) For every tech worker the country let's in, 5 American jobs are created.

And I could go on and on, but , unlike the distorted opinion of Trump and his followers, not every immigrant coming into this country is a murderer, thief , drug dealer, or here to suck off of our economy. Many participate in our economy and are productive members of our society.
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