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Not often I find myself inclined to pass along the words of Republicans, but these words seem worth consideration. Perhaps the book worth reading too. You think?
Peter Wehner served in three Republican White Houses.
"You know, we have had divisive and polarizing presidents in the past. What's different with Donald Trump, in my estimation, is several things, one of which is, I don't think we have ever had a president in American history who seems to take such delight in inflaming the body politic, a person who seems to get a kind of psychic satisfaction out of antipathy, creating antipathy, anger, and divisions.
He seems to thrive on that, and he keeps going back to it again and again and again. And I don't know that anyone has ever controlled the public conversation like Trump has. And the fact that he uses that bully pulpit to divide us is, in my estimation, a terrible thing that has to be corrected for politics to get better and for the country to get better."
So, when you look at Christian leaders, how do you explain their enthusiastic support for the president?
"I think, frankly, that, for some of them, there's the seduction of political power, that the idea that, if they are at all critical of Trump, they're going to lose access to that power, and they don't want to do that.
... the other thing that's important for some evangelical Christians, not all, is that precisely the thing that ought to bother them the most, which is the cruelty, the crudity, the dehumanization that characterizes Donald Trump, I think they not only are not troubled by it. I think, for some of them, they appreciate it, because they feel like, this guy will figuratively bring a gun to a knife fight.
And there's a tremendous amount of anger and frustration and grievances that Christians have felt, and they look at Donald Trump as someone who is going to fight for them. I think it's a huge mistake. I think it's led them to very dark places, but I think that's part of what's going on."
Pubs have cozied up to the mindless "religious right" for decades now. The GOP has taken full advantage of their irrational fear and anger to convince them that the Republican Party is their only salvation.
I have to give the GOP some credit here. They've done a masterful job of convincing America's white "christians" that they're victims of some all-powerful conspiracy. This alliance between wealthy Pub money grubbers and ignorant Bible thumpers has worked well for the GOP.
But their minority rule is coming to an end. They were pointedly warned by one of their own.
Pubs have cozied up to the mindless "religious right" for decades now. The GOP has taken full advantage of their irrational fear and anger to convince them that the Republican Party is their only salvation.
I have to give the GOP some credit here. They've done a masterful job of convincing America's white "christians" that they're victims of some all-powerful conspiracy. This alliance between wealthy Pub money grubbers and ignorant Bible thumpers has worked well for the GOP.
But their minority rule is coming to an end. They were pointedly warned by one of their own.
Barry Goldwater said that in the 1980s yet the Christian Right still runs this country. Under Obama it was assumed that the religious right, as a political movement, had seen its time come and gone and that we were moving into a new more progressive, secular age. Now, it's like the 1980s are back and the Christian Right has returned to its place as the dominant political and cultural force in our country. Except this time, it has lost its humanity. It's only concerned with making its enemies, most notably LGBT, suffer. Close behind that is suppressing science that undermines their narrative regarding the End Times, climate change being the biggest issue.
This video is just as relevant in 2019 as it was in the early 1980s when it was made. It's like nothing has changed in this country, except empathy doesn't exist anymore.
" they feel like, this guy will figuratively bring a gun to a knife fight."
That seems to be the core-appeal to so many groups... be it working-class people who regard their standard of living as slipping, religiously-devout people who regard their world-view as being marginalized by modernity, and so forth. The appeal is to have a pugilistic, vitriolic figure who's not constrained by the unworkable niceties of conventional methods.
The Christian right doesn't particularly like Trump, they just like his Supreme Court picks. They will sell their souls to the devil to advance their agenda. I have asked myself if I would vote for a scumbag if he/she would promote the things I care about (climate change being the biggest) and I probably would. But at least with me I am not being a hypocrite like the Christian crowd is; my objections to Trump are not that he is immoral, but that he is dumb as a rock, is a racist, a wannabe despot, corrupt, and incompetent.
The Christian right doesn't particularly like Trump, they just like his Supreme Court picks. They will sell their souls to the devil to advance their agenda. I have asked myself if I would vote for a scumbag if he/she would promote the things I care about (climate change being the biggest) and I probably would. But at least with me I am not being a hypocrite like the Christian crowd is; my objections to Trump are not that he is immoral, but that he is dumb as a rock, is a racist, a wannabe despot, corrupt, and incompetent.
I share your sentiments, as I'd also vote for a "scumbag" who happens to advance my agenda. The trouble is, as you phrase it, the devil's bargain. Our scrappy little champion might not be so easy to contain. He might turn on his backers - and then what?
Perfectly fine for some Christians to support liberal policies even though those policies lift up anti-Christian principles such as abortion, gay marriage, removal of Christian influences and prayer in school, ... but we can't support Trump. That's a no-no for Christians.
Meanwhile you want school age boys and girls to dress and and undress in the same facilities. Why would I vote for that?
The truth is you REALLY don't care about what Christians think or believe. It's all about eroding support for Trump so your side can win. Just admit it.
Perfectly fine for some Christians to support liberal policies even though those policies lift up anti-Christian principles such as abortion, gay marriage, removal of Christian influences and prayer in school, ... but we can't support Trump. That's a no-no for Christians.
Meanwhile you want school age boys and girls to dress and and undress in the same facilities. Why would I vote for that?
The truth is you REALLY don't care about what Christians think or believe. It's all about eroding support for Trump so your side can win. Just admit it.
You support Trump despite his 30 year history of being a sleazebag in every part of his life. And then you turn around and say "God" put this guy in office.
Donald Trump is and always has been the poster boy for a guy that is controlled by the devil and was on the road straight to hell.
Don't you realize that the devil is tricking you guys by putting in one of his minions? And you all are falling for it because "policies".
That old crafty devil. You Christians have always told us how smart and sneaky he was. Now we have proof.
You support Trump despite his 30 year history of being a sleazebag in every part of his life. And then you turn around and say "God" put this guy in office.
Donald Trump is and always has been the poster boy for a guy that is controlled by the devil and was on the road straight to hell.
Don't you realize that the devil is tricking you guys by putting in one of his minions? And you all are falling for it because "policies".
That old crafty devil. You Christians have always told us how smart and sneaky he was. Now we have proof.
So Christians would be better off voting for Hillary Clinton?
You progs and your concern trolling.
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