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Old 07-09-2019, 09:35 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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I remember that he could be serious and still poke fun at himself ("I'm all ears") -- something that the current empty suit in the oval office could learn from. I don't recall him telling lies as a way of gaining favor.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:36 AM
 
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How would Bush 1 have been any better than Clinton? Bush 1 would have done even more harm to working class Americans than Clinton did.
What a load of BS you dumped. Clinton was a disaster whose damage to America lingered for decades.

BTW, when you say working class, who exactly is that. For Example, President Trump is working class...works harder than virtually any blue-collar union member. Most wealthy people ARE working class, and more-so than those more limited accomplishment.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:38 AM
 
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read post #16.
REad and dismissed as nought but bilge and BS.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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What a load of BS you dumped. Clinton was a disaster whose damage to America lingered for decades.

BTW, when you say working class, who exactly is that. For Example, President Trump is working class...works harder than virtually any blue-collar union member. Most wealthy people ARE working class, and more-so than those more limited accomplishment.
Working hard doesn't mean anything.

Criminals can work hard, it doesn't make you a good person.


Also Clinton was awful, but how would Bush have been any better?
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:41 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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REad and dismissed as nought but bilge and BS.
you read all the material at the texas monthly link and watched the full 10 minute, 52 second video from 538?

somehow i doubt that.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:49 AM
 
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Working hard doesn't mean anything.

Criminals can work hard, it doesn't make you a good person.


Also Clinton was awful, but how would Bush have been any better?
He may have prevented Hillary from ever getting beyond Arkansas? That would have been a great accomplishment.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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The man responsible for bringing us the Clinton political dynasty by defeating GH Bush in '92 has passed on.

Said of Bush & Clinton......
″So we’ve got the chicken man and the potato chip man, and you’ve got me,″ Perot said.
Ross Perot Dead At 89 After Battle With Cancer

One of the few not afraid to call out the establishment from both parties.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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I voted for him even knowing he wouldn't win. No regrets. He'd have made a better POTUS than either of the other guys. Like an even tempered Trump without the personal baggage.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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Working hard doesn't mean anything.

Criminals can work hard, it doesn't make you a good person.


Also Clinton was awful, but how would Bush have been any better?
By not being Clinton, for one thing.

BTW, how does one come to the nonsensical conclusion that working hard doesn't mean ANYTHING (Emphasis mine).
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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Ross Perot may have had some decent ideas and I agree that his take in NAFTA was spot on, but he was weird. Does anyone else remember those TV spots he paid for where he sat at a desk and used a pointer with a lizard's foot on the end of it to emphasize the content of large slides behind him that stressed the weaknesses of the other two candidates? That was something I won't forget.

At one point he was discussing the poor working conditions in Arkansas under Clinton's governorship and he used the Tyson chicken processing plant as an example. He had a huge slide with pictures of cartoon chickens and I can still hear him in that Texas twang saying, "Yep, thayat's Bill Clinton's Arkansas fer ya. The chickens keep cluckin' and the people keep pluckin'..." He was colorful, I'll say that!
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