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Tennessee was a Confederate state. However, it was the last state to join the Confederacy. It was the first to return to the Union.
Yes the poster carigiri was wrong to say Tennessee wasn't officially a Confederate state.
Keep in mind that Tennessee was the first to rejoin the union in large part, because they were the first confederate state that was essentially totally conquered and a reconstruction government started in the middle of the war. If another state had been totally conquered first it would have been that state.
North Carolina was the last state to vote on secession. It is just that Tennessee gave it's voters a chance to ratify the secession, which it gave a few weeks for the people to debate and think. Most states didn't do that like Tennessee did. However, because Tennessee's citizens ratified secession by a more than 2 to 1 margin, everyone knew Tennessee was gone, once the state congress and governor overwhelming supported it. Public opinion among voters was clearly favoring leaving.
Traitor? By today's standards certainly. Back then loyalty to state was big.
Nathan Bedford Forrest. A barely literate man, self made, had to buy his commission and pretty much pay to outfit his troops. A very successful Gorilla soldier, even against West Point trained officers.
He was also without doubt one of the most ignorant, racist, scumbag, rednecks, to ever walk the earth.
LOL sorry for the spell Nazi but I now have this image from Planet of the Apes wearing confederate uniforms...
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest
I've noticed his roadside memorial along I65 is looking a little run down lately. It is on private property, as it should be.
Actually that works. Whoever owns it... Their right to display it and my right to think they are revering a POS.
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... Just a mostly forgotten person that most people don't know much about. His time has passed, but People Who Think They Matter will become hysterical and suddenly "remember" what a vile person he was.
It'll be fun, watching them joust with ghosts....
True. Never heard of him before. Then again, my interest in history is WW2 European theatre.
Yes the poster carigiri was wrong to say Tennessee wasn't officially a Confederate state.
Keep in mind that Tennessee was the first to rejoin the union in large part, because they were the first confederate state that was essentially totally conquered and a reconstruction government started in the middle of the war. If another state had been totally conquered first it would have been that state.
North Carolina was the last state to vote on secession. It is just that Tennessee gave it's voters a chance to ratify the secession, which it gave a few weeks for the people to debate and think. Most states didn't do that like Tennessee did. However, because Tennessee's citizens ratified secession by a more than 2 to 1 margin, everyone knew Tennessee was gone, once the state congress and governor overwhelming supported it. Public opinion among voters was clearly favoring leaving.
"A 2 to 1 vote"- yes, that is what it was.
What about the "1"? Again, Northeastern TN was staunchly Union and the first abolitionist newspaper in America was from Jonesboro, TN.
The "north and south" did not follow strict geographic boundries in their political sentiments. Likewise, there were areas in the north that supported the confederacy.
TN is three different "states", thus the three stars on its flag. Each region has markedly different economies, culture, and many times, political sentiments.
Northeastern TN has always been very pro Union. In the Revolution, the "over mountain men" gathered a group of 1,000. marched to South Carolina, and defeated a numerically superior British force, winning the first major American victory in the South. They hung torries they had captured while marching back to Johnson City, only to have to fight and defeat a large Cherokee force fighting for the British.
Eastern TN always has had a disproportionate number of volunteers in every American conflict. MANY of the residents of Texas came from TN and populated that state. They are fiercely independent types and were the main force of troops under Jackson that conquered the Creeks in securing Alabama and Mississippi. Unfortunately, Jackson sold most of the land to plantation owners, rather than small farming settlers, paving the way for the Civil War. Had Crockett had his way, perhaps the Civil War may not have happened.
The statue is on private property. No matter your opinion of him you've no right to take it down anymore than someone would to come into your house and "take down" a painting from your wall.
That has to be the ugliest statue I have ever seen.
Libs are obsessed with such events, while ignoring the violence and terrorism of criminals today, like ANTIFA. However, they are just fine with modern, masked terrorists, as they advance communism and anarchy, favorite pet projects of the left.
Rather than focusing on dead Confederates, why not focus on live terrorists?
Like most of the Confederate worship, it's a holdover not from the time of the war, but from the civil rights era.
In short, the concerned white people of Tennessee were very unhappy about the idea if acknowledging black men and women as equals, back in the 50s and 60s. So they looked around for a power demonstration, to sort of hammer home to the black population just who it was who actually held the reins of power. State legislatures of the former slave states suddenly couldn't celebrate their heritage enough.
In short, it's a middle finger directed at black people, making it clear that while the good-ol-boys may have to say that the races are equal, they're never going to actually think it.
How exactly did you become a clairvoyant expert on "white people in Tennessee".
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