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Old 07-17-2019, 03:22 PM
 
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I thought Trump solved the Iran problem.

I would much rather have Rand Paul than Bolton giving it a shot.
Indeed.
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Old 07-17-2019, 03:27 PM
 
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I thought Trump solved the Iran problem.

I would much rather have Rand Paul than Bolton giving it a shot.
What Iran problem? It was solved during the Obama administration.

Whoa now, you weren't confusing it with the North Korean problem that Trump created were you?
That was solved during the Clinton administration you silly goose! Got Carter the nobel peace price and everything. Hugs all around.

Agree on your second sentence though.
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Old 07-17-2019, 03:31 PM
 
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Trumps "strategy" is the same as with his wealth - that is, it all went away.

So, in this case, what he is doing is rolling back EVERYTHING Obama accomplished and then....like the Mexico Trade and ACA and Iran and everything else...he will put it back (mostly) 1/2 way with OTHER NAMES on it.

Sorta like other names are on all his bankrupt Casinos. Brilliant....

Rand Paul, meanwhile, is holding up the money for the 9/11 responders....crowing about how they are going to pay for it. Wait! A TRILLION deficit per year going forward and he denies care to the sick and dying first responders???
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Old 07-17-2019, 03:53 PM
 
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No fan of Trump but I like this move. Not sure what is not to like.
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:04 PM
 
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No fan of Trump but I like this move. Not sure what is not to like.
Uh, for starters.....

We and the rest of world already had a deal.

Deals are made by large groups of people - we call them Diplomats, and they usually have combined experience of 100+ years in foreign relations.

If you can show us the great deal made with China, NK, Russia, Health Care, Immigration Reform, Balancing the Budget or anything else....then maybe there would be something to it.

But it's all just PR. Reality TV.

Unilateralism simply does not work. Watch closely as the UK destroys itself. It's only common sense that "deals" have to be between the large groups (i.e. The "West") and Iran...because if Rand plays "Let's Make a Deal" and the Germans and Euros make a different deal...and then the Russians and Chinese make an even different one, then what IS the deal?

What is the goal here? Iran will have nukes before long unless we go back into the "deal" we were already in.

You can't go breaking promises in "big deals" like that when the POTUS may not even be around in two years. It's simply not a good way to operate.

I'm willing to be proven wrong but I rarely am in these cases. It's like someone telling you they are going to make a handmade piece of furniture with dovetail joints and the best workmanship and then coming back in an hour delivering it. Ain't gonna happen. It takes work and Trump doesn't work.
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:08 PM
 
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Uh, for starters.....

We and the rest of world already had a deal.
I never said we didn't.

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Deals are made by large groups of people - we call them Diplomats, and they usually have combined experience of 100+ years in foreign relations.

If you can show us the great deal made with China, NK, Russia, Health Care, Immigration Reform, Balancing the Budget or anything else....then maybe there would be something to it.

But it's all just PR. Reality TV.

Unilateralism simply does not work. Watch closely as the UK destroys itself. It's only common sense that "deals" have to be between the large groups (i.e. The "West") and Iran...because if Rand plays "Let's Make a Deal" and the Germans and Euros make a different deal...and then the Russians and Chinese make an even different one, then what IS the deal?

What is the goal here? Iran will have nukes before long unless we go back into the "deal" we were already in.

You can't go breaking promises in "big deals" like that when the POTUS may not even be around in two years. It's simply not a good way to operate.

I'm willing to be proven wrong but I rarely am in these cases. It's like someone telling you they are going to make a handmade piece of furniture with dovetail joints and the best workmanship and then coming back in an hour delivering it. Ain't gonna happen. It takes work and Trump doesn't work.
Of all the people Trump could have picked, IMO Rand is by far the least likely to get us into another war. Past foolish actions by Trump don't change the facts going forward.
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:14 PM
 
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Maybe he can sell them an expensive Lasic eye treatment...or possibly cut their lawn?

Since he's "against drones", I will assume he was happy with their downing of a US Model.

Trump is a genius selecting this guy. After all, his home state (KY) is doing so well that old Rand has plenty of time to go and talk....."bad drones" and stuff.
Yeah we need a guy in there who will get us into another unwinable war. Genius.
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:18 PM
 
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Another genius move by our President


Politico reports that Sen. Rand Paul — the outspoken anti-interventionist Libertarian Republican from Kentucky — has been handpicked by President Trump as his emissary to mediate with Iran after the Kentucky senator proposed the idea.

Trump has now reportedly signed off on the plan, first pitched over the past weekend by Paul at a golf outing as a way to avoid escalating toward military conflict with Iran, according to multiple US officials.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...-emissary-iran
And people think he plays too much golf! A lot of business happens on the golf course. People don't realize that. It's probably better than meeting over drinks.
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