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Old 04-15-2008, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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seriously. When our currency fails? When the bureaucrats socialize healthcare? When the supreme court rules the DC gun ban constitutional? When the government defaults on social security and medicare benefits? How much longer will we take violations of state's rights, private property rights, privacy rights, and our nation's sovereignty?

The founding fathers were up in arms over a small tax on imported tea. Where's the civil disobedience at? Where are the protests? Where's our Boston Tea Party? Is America too apathetic and/or spineless to make a stand? Will we submit to fascism and totalitarianism of the federal bureaucracy? Or will we rally as our founding fathers did in an effort for our God given liberty? Who will make a stand with me?

 
Old 04-15-2008, 11:24 AM
 
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nobody stopping you
 
Old 04-15-2008, 11:27 AM
 
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The founding fathers up in arms over a small tax on imported tea. Where's the civil disobedience at? Where are the protests? Where's our Boston Tea Party?
The Founding Fathers didn't take up arms over taxes, they took up arms because they were being taxed without representation in Parliment. Get your facts straight.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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seriously. When our currency fails? When the bureaucrats socialize healthcare? When the supreme court rules the DC gun ban constitutional? When the government defaults on social security and medicare benefits? How much longer will we take violations of state's rights, private property rights, privacy rights, and our nation's sovereignty?

The founding fathers were up in arms over a small tax on imported tea. Where's the civil disobedience at? Where are the protests? Where's our Boston Tea Party? Is America too apathetic and/or spineless to make a stand? Will we submit to fascism and totalitarianism of the federal bureaucracy? Or will we rally as our founding fathers did in an effort for our God given liberty? Who will make a stand with me?
We should all stop paying federal income taxes, the revolution can start when the IRS sends federal agents to come take your property.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The Founding Fathers didn't take up arms over taxes, they took up arms because they were being taxed without representation in Parliment. Get your facts straight.
The took up arms because they were sick of tyranny. They took up arms because they believed in self government. Read the declaration of independence. To say they took up arms merely because they weren't represented in Parliment is completely false. You are nothing but a loyalist traitor anyway. You are the type of weal minded person that would submit to unconstitutional authority. If you wouldn't die in the name of liberty, what would you die for? I will not be a slave to the federal bureaucracy anymore. All of my work from now on is being done under the table. Come and Take it Uncle Sam. Patriots and lovers of what this nation was founded upon will come to my aid when the federal onslaught happens.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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Or....we can form militias...
 
Old 04-15-2008, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I propose peaceful secession, but when they turn their guns on me, I will certainly defend myself. We're gunna need tanks, planes, and automatic weapons to form a real militia. I reckon some liberty loving guys in the federal military will help us out. Surely our cause for independence has some sympathizers on the inside.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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Nope, the government has made it illegal for citizens to have the type of arms they do. You should join the Free State Project...then get NH to secede.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:07 PM
 
Location: One Day their Lies will Collapse
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I thought we did have socialized health care, it's called medicaid.

As long as you have children and don't work, it's free.

Did you know for programs such as food stamps you are not required to work as long as you have dependents? That's right, you don't even need to have a part-time job to draw food stamps, medicaid, or any other host of handouts.

It's quite disgusting. I would do away with this nonsense and force these people to work or at least community service.

I'm sick of our high taxes to pay for the handouts of the unworking, foreign aid handouts, and wars for Israel. I wish Ron Paul got more support.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:14 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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seriously. When our currency fails? When the bureaucrats socialize healthcare? When the supreme court rules the DC gun ban constitutional? When the government defaults on social security and medicare benefits? How much longer will we take violations of state's rights, private property rights, privacy rights, and our nation's sovereignty?

The founding fathers were up in arms over a small tax on imported tea. Where's the civil disobedience at? Where are the protests? Where's our Boston Tea Party? Is America too apathetic and/or spineless to make a stand? Will we submit to fascism and totalitarianism of the federal bureaucracy? Or will we rally as our founding fathers did in an effort for our God given liberty? Who will make a stand with me?
None of the above.It would have to be a extreme case IMO like a leader or leaders declaring the Consitution null and void outright.Where people are jailed and presecuted without due process.


Carefull thought should be used in such manners,a civil war is not something to be discussed lightly and many problems we have now can still be fixed by voting and negotiation.
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