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Old 09-02-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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I am surprsied that we haven't heard any argument that had the injured 17 month old been armed, this tragedy might have been prevented.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Workplace shootings are actually rare but seem to resonate more because every business terminates employees from time to time.

This shooter’s rampage may have been triggered by being terminated but instead of targeting his former workplace, he went on a rampage and randomly shot at cars and pedestrians.

Speculation on my part he may have been enroute to his former employer when his plan was interrupted by LE and a routine traffic stop.

As an aside, the Aurora incident was a massive screw up. The shooter was convicted of a felony aggravated assault in Mississippi in 1994 and served 2 years in prison. He applied for a FOID and received it as his criminal history had not been reported to the database. After legally purchasing a firearm, he applied for a concealed carry permit, which requires fingerprinting. That’s when it became known he was not authorized to possess any firearm. The state sent him a letter instructing him to turn in his firearm. He did not comply. The state did not follow-up.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:22 AM
 
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Cherry picking today? However, if you must ask; many more in the US have been killed by guns than the box truck in Nice.

But back to the point: why don't those killers in the US kill with box trucks instead of guns?

Sure they do.

https://nypost.com/2017/10/31/8-kill...terror-attack/
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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FACTS clearly block your attempts to be rational.

In France, over 100 were killed without needing a gun in Nice.

In France, illegal fully automatic weapons were used to massacre people in Paris.

That's right, gun laws were ignored in one instance and weren't needed in another.

Your idea that gun laws will stop either violence or guns being acquired by criminals don't hold up in reality.
Then why aren't killers using box trucks instead of guns to kill here in the US?
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Cho and Mateen (two of the top 3 of all time) should not have been here since their parents were "immigrants". If the government actually cared about its citizens, these two animals would not have been here.

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So now you are against all immigrants legal or illegal as well as their US born children. Tell that to trump so he can deport Melania along with her son and parents.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Just as there are those around who like to stir one pot or another.
There are those around who would rather bury their heads in the sand than to deal with a real problem. Thankfully, our forefathers were not so complacent.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Triggered people want to censor people with different views.

That's something we see on the left, not the right.

I wasn't calling for good ol friendly Joe to be censored. I pointed out accurately that I'm not his slave.
"Oh Jim, looks like mkpunk threw the challenge flag onto the field."
"Yes Mike, mkpunk disagrees with the play and thinks that triggering happens to the right. I hear our specialist John has his view."
"Jim if we look at how many complain about AOC, Bernie, The Squad, gun laws, socialized healthcare, he is right. There are tons of conservatives and Trump supporters who are triggered. This should be an easy reversal in mkpunk's favor."
"Thanks John."
"Looks like our referee unit is ready with his decision Mike."
"That was fast Jim."
"The ruling on the field is reversed. Triggering is for conservatives and liberals. ClemVegas is wrong."
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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None have chosen trucks instead of guns in the past two years of mass shootings. Gee, I wonder why.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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So now you are against all immigrants legal or illegal as well as their US born children. Tell that to trump so he can deport Melania along with her son and parents.
Yes I am. Like most Americans.


I also don't believe as it is written that birthright citizenship was ever intended.
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Old 09-02-2019, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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^^ You are wrong about the attitudes of most Americans being against immigration. Most Americans think that immigration makes out country better.

From the link below [quote]: "Quinnipiac University released another poll, on January 29, in which the response to the question of whether immigration was good or bad for the country was slightly more positive. Three-quarters (75 percent) of voters overall said immigration was good for the country, including 60 percent of Republicans, 90 percent of Democrats, and 79 percent of independents."

https://immigrationforum.org/article...tisan-divides/
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