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Old 09-01-2019, 02:58 PM
 
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I think CD needs to create a “Disadvantaged Farmer Forum” for the 6 people on here who have suddenly become obsessed with this.
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Old 09-01-2019, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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The President of the National Farmers Union is not a happy camper about Trump - and with good reason. And he's right on the money about why:

"The president of the National Farmers Union has leveled an astonishingly frank broadside against President Donald Trump, who rural voters largely supported in the 2016 election.

Trade group leader Roger Johnson said in a radio interview Thursday that it will take “decades” to reverse damage caused by Trump. China, he added, is now a “lost market” for American farmers because of Trump’s trade war.

Trump has “offended the leaders of pretty much every ally we have on Earth,” and America’s reputation in markets around the world has taken a long-lasting hit, Johnson said in an interview on KFGO radio in Fargo, North Dakota. “It’s going to take much different behavior from future presidents in order to repair this damage,” he said.

Johnson, whose organization represents some 200,000 family farms, ranches and fishing enterprises in 33 states, agreed that China needs to be “held to account” for trade relationships and behavior. But he said that Trump would have been wiser to approach the world’s second-largest economy with a team of allies.

“I would ... argue that it would be far more effective if we did it with the rest of world, instead of first ticking off the rest of the world and then trying to do it all by ourself,” he said..."


https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/natio...113451905.html

Here's a link to the Fargo radio interview itself:

https://kfgo.com/podcasts/news-views...t-for-agricul/

Trump is a total screw-up.

Ken

And he's still going to vote for Trump. That's how warped the Trump band of supporters are. They'll cry about all the damage he's going to do them then turn around and vote for him again.
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Old 09-01-2019, 03:11 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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As they sell off the family farm, including the house, barn and equipment, the family members all get to keep their MAGA hats! They'll look "very fashionable" in the homeless shelter downtown. So much winning!!!
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Old 09-01-2019, 04:11 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Of all US agricultural production, only 3% goes to China.

Suck it up buttercup.
And?
What's your point?
Don't you think the American people eat most of what farmers produce?
What else would you expect?

We export 20% of our agricultural production and China accounts for 17% of that 20% (the top market). That's nearly 1/5th of our total agricultural exports that's suddenly gone. Canada is next at 15% and Mexico after that at 14%. Trump of course caused trouble with those markets as well.
How much profit margin do you think farmers make?
Geeze!

https://www.fas.usda.gov/data/percen...ducts-exported

https://www.mda.state.mn.us/sites/de...ofilechina.pdf

Trump has been a disaster for farmers - many of whom were already struggling.

Ken

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Old 09-01-2019, 05:00 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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The point is that they can’t support themselves in a free market. So they rely on government subsidies (i.e., welfare).

When adult fast-food or retail workers collect welfare and ask for higher wages, conservatives say those types of jobs were never meant to be careers. When farmers do the same thing, they’re hard-working Muricans.
I just saw a local farmer interviewed where he is upset with the tariffs and how things are going but he thinks he will vote again for Trump. He doesn't like the idea of 'free health care and college". So he wants socialism for HIM but, by damn, not for anyone else.
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Old 09-01-2019, 07:00 PM
 
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"About 39 percent of the nation's 2.1 million farms receive subsidies, with the lion's share of the handouts going to the largest producers of corn, soybeans, wheat, cotton, and rice."

"The government protects farmers against fluctuations in prices, revenues, and yields. It subsidizes their conservation efforts, insurance coverage, marketing, export sales, research, and other activities. Federal aid for crop farmers is deep and comprehensive."

https://www.downsizinggovernment.org...ture/subsidies

This article was April of 2018, before the $24 billion in bribes/subsidies to soybean farmers.

So not sure where they get off bad mouthing others for getting free health insurance.
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Old 09-01-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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SMDH.
In today’s lies, Trump said he is making farmers while and they are better off than if they had been selling to china. In what universe???
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Old 09-01-2019, 07:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
The President of the National Farmers Union is not a happy camper about Trump - and with good reason. And he's right on the money about why:

"The president of the National Farmers Union has leveled an astonishingly frank broadside against President Donald Trump, who rural voters largely supported in the 2016 election.

Trade group leader Roger Johnson said in a radio interview Thursday that it will take “decades” to reverse damage caused by Trump. China, he added, is now a “lost market” for American farmers because of Trump’s trade war.

Trump has “offended the leaders of pretty much every ally we have on Earth,” and America’s reputation in markets around the world has taken a long-lasting hit, Johnson said in an interview on KFGO radio in Fargo, North Dakota. “It’s going to take much different behavior from future presidents in order to repair this damage,” he said.

Johnson, whose organization represents some 200,000 family farms, ranches and fishing enterprises in 33 states, agreed that China needs to be “held to account” for trade relationships and behavior. But he said that Trump would have been wiser to approach the world’s second-largest economy with a team of allies.

“I would ... argue that it would be far more effective if we did it with the rest of world, instead of first ticking off the rest of the world and then trying to do it all by ourself,” he said..."


https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/natio...113451905.html

Here's a link to the Fargo radio interview itself:

https://kfgo.com/podcasts/news-views...t-for-agricul/

Trump is a total screw-up.

Ken
I know a lot of farmers who would tell you to go £UCk yourself along with that union idiot.
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Old 09-01-2019, 07:31 PM
 
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I know a lot of farmers who would tell you to go £UCk yourself along with that union idiot.
Hmmm I doubt it.
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Old 09-01-2019, 07:36 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I know a lot of farmers who would tell you to go £UCk yourself along with that union idiot.
So what you are saying is that you know a lot of really stupid farmers.
Figures. They voted for Trump.

Ken
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