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Old 09-01-2019, 08:48 PM
 
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….they'd drop this nonsense about getting rid of the Electoral College (ain't gonna happen....red states won't vote for it), and instead focus on eliminating "open primary" states.

Everyone I know who HATES the New Democrat Party (open borders, effectively; Medicaid-for-all; have other people pay off students' loans; blah, blah, blah) and therefore wants Trump to win is voting for Warren in the primary.
If you are looking for smart democrats, you are in an alternate reality.

 
Old 09-01-2019, 08:54 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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….they'd drop this nonsense about getting rid of the Electoral College (ain't gonna happen....red states won't vote for it), and instead focus on eliminating "open primary" states.

Everyone I know who HATES the New Democrat Party (open borders, effectively; Medicaid-for-all; have other people pay off students' loans; blah, blah, blah) and therefore wants Trump to win is voting for Warren in the primary.
LOL! I'm not even sure that getting rid of the electoral college will be a party of the party's plat form, but even if it is, so what? If the Dems gave up on that one idea would all you conservatives suddenly start voting for liberal candidates? For some reason I don't think that would be the outcome of such a change.
 
Old 09-01-2019, 10:14 PM
 
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The degraded masses in places like new Yourk and Californica are not going to decide who wins an election for POTUS.....no way.......will decent people stand for such a filthy thing to happen.
 
Old 09-02-2019, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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….they'd drop this nonsense about getting rid of the Electoral College (ain't gonna happen....red states won't vote for it), and instead focus on eliminating "open primary" states.

Everyone I know who HATES the New Democrat Party (open borders, effectively; Medicaid-for-all; have other people pay off students' loans; blah, blah, blah) and therefore wants Trump to win is voting for Warren in the primary.
You can't change "open Primary" states unless if you change how party registration is structured in those states. The states that have open Primaries do not register by party. In South Carolina for example, there is no such thing as a registered Democrat or a registered Republican, and they aren't alone in that regard.

Some states do have a modified Primary in which independent or unaffiliated voters can vote in whatever Primary they choose (as long as it is just one), but someone can't vote in the other parties Primary.
 
Old 09-02-2019, 08:35 AM
 
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They won't have the votes for it. A majority of states have to OK it, and there are more red states than blue.

It's also critical that we support Republicans at the state level. If worse comes to worst and a Democratic Socialist ALA Warren wins, we need at least one house of Congress to squash her destructive policies.
That big red map shows land not people. Land lived on by many farmers who are totally supported by government.

You want to talk socialists? Under the guise of protecting the food supply of nation, farmers are more subsidized than oil companies.

Is the health of the nation's citizens as critical as the food supply? What about housing? The farmers need protecting because they produce the food for people living on the streets? Sorry, it makes no sense.

I do not agree with much of what Warren says. But she is asking us to prioritize what we think is important.

IMO, if we are a nation of free enterprise and markets, why does the government subsidize anybody?

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Old 09-02-2019, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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….they'd drop this nonsense about getting rid of the Electoral College (ain't gonna happen....red states won't vote for it), and instead focus on eliminating "open primary" states.

Everyone I know who HATES the New Democrat Party (open borders, effectively; Medicaid-for-all; have other people pay off students' loans; blah, blah, blah) and therefore wants Trump to win is voting for Warren in the primary.
Trump was opposed to the EC, before the 2016 election. He called it a “ rigged system”. Obviously, he has changed his mind.

If Trump wins the popular vote in 2020 and loses the EC, no doubt he and thus, his base, might be inclined to revisit the topic
 
Old 09-02-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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Not all Dems or Repubs are dumb. An FB friend named Carli Mosier, a voice actress for the Eng. dubs of anime, is a proud Houston Democrat and a smart woman. I may not agree with all that she has to say politically, though.
 
Old 09-02-2019, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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….they'd drop this nonsense about getting rid of the Electoral College (ain't gonna happen....red states won't vote for it), and instead focus on eliminating "open primary" states.

Everyone I know who HATES the New Democrat Party (open borders, effectively; Medicaid-for-all; have other people pay off students' loans; blah, blah, blah) and therefore wants Trump to win is voting for Warren in the primary.
All you have to do to answer the question, are the democrats smart... is look at their 2016 candidate. They nominated the most unlikeable, unelectable candidate they could find and she still almost won. Any other candidate likely would have beaten Trump.
 
Old 09-03-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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LOL! I'm not even sure that getting rid of the electoral college will be a party of the party's plat form, but even if it is, so what? If the Dems gave up on that one idea would all you conservatives suddenly start voting for liberal candidates? For some reason I don't think that would be the outcome of such a change.
Democrats have always moved right for General Election. The Media is complicit by ignoring their Left Ideology that they promoted to get the nomination. The public pays little attention.

I’ve said many times .... the Leftists always forget about Video Tape.

It’s now 2019, not the 1990’s. Donald Trump is not really a Politician, he is a Billionaire who owned and ran his business privately. He is not afraid of the Media. Everything these Democrat Primary candidates are now saying on the Campaign trail , will be Front and Center in the General Election. No “walking it back” in 2020.
 
Old 09-03-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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You can't change "open Primary" states unless if you change how party registration is structured in those states. The states that have open Primaries do not register by party. In South Carolina for example, there is no such thing as a registered Democrat or a registered Republican, and they aren't alone in that regard.

Some states do have a modified Primary in which independent or unaffiliated voters can vote in whatever Primary they choose (as long as it is just one), but someone can't vote in the other parties Primary.
Texas has an open Primary ... every Texan is allowed to vote in the Primary of their choice, BUT only one Primary. For runoff’s- only those who voted in that Party Primary are allowed to vote in the Runoff.

No Party Registrations- it’s always been like that.
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