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Old 09-22-2019, 10:15 AM
 
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The problem you have is that the Assault Rifle Ban (1994 to 2004) was challenged in court and the SCOTUS rejected all arguments. It was found to be legal.
Since the ban was lifted mass shooting have increased to about twice the level of the pre-ban years.


Some of the Columbine guns were purchased in 1998 before the ban and others from from individuals illegally about a year before the shooting.
The magazine fed models should not be for sell anywhere under any circumstances. Just like hand grenades.


There are lots of things the Constitution does not limit. That does not mean they cannot be limited.
That was also when the stupid "gun free" zone was created. it makes the victims defenseless.
And the "ban" banned nothing. It was based only on looks, not function. Add some of the scary black accessories and a muzzle loader would have been banned.
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:17 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Your aim doesn't really matter.

What if it penetrates pass someone skin, what if it ricochets off towards someone else, what if an unnecessary death is created?


Ninja star are precise, not just accurate. They save a situation from have collateral damage and are far more effective for a developing situation with changing factors.
War is Hell. Don't wage war on another person, and you won't be faulted for the unintended casualties, of the person you intended to oppress, while defending their freedom.
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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War is Hell. Don't wage war on another person, and you won't be faulted for the unintended casualties, of the person you intended to oppress, defending their freedom.
Friend there could be other people in the house.

What about the kids?

Developing situations aren't as simple as shoot and dead, you don't know where the attacker could be positioned, who is in the next room, or what drugs they're on.

Ninja stars can effectively immobilize attackers with spreading the damage elsewhere or hurting other people you did not intend to hurt.
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:22 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by Listener2307 View Post
The problem you have is that the Assault Rifle Ban (1994 to 2004) was challenged in court and the SCOTUS rejected all arguments. It was found to be legal.
Since the ban was lifted mass shooting have increased to about twice the level of the pre-ban years.


Some of the Columbine guns were purchased in 1998 before the ban and others from from individuals illegally about a year before the shooting.
The magazine fed models should not be for sell anywhere under any circumstances. Just like hand grenades.


There are lots of things the Constitution does not limit. That does not mean they cannot be limited.
The SC refused the case, and deferred back to the lower court at the time.

Heard in Heller v D.C. and McDonald v. Chicago. Found not to be Constitutional in both cases.


No "ban" firearm was used in Columbine, and before Vegas Jihad, the worst mass shooting was done with a handgun.
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:25 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Friend there could be other people in the house.

What about the kids?

Developing situations aren't as simple as shoot and dead, you don't know where the attacker could be positioned, who is in the next room, or what drugs they're on.

Ninja stars can effectively immobilize attackers with spreading the damage elsewhere or hurting other people you did not intend to hurt.
Feelings don't trump my personal liberty and natural right to preserve my own life. Blame the tyrant, not the defender.
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:28 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The SC refused the case, and deferred back to the lower court at the time.

Heard in Heller v D.C. and McDonald v. Chicago. Found not to be Constitutional in both cases.
As it should be.
That case dealt with the possession of handguns in the home. To be clear, let me state that I am firmly in favor of individual possession of handguns. My favorite is my Ruger Blackhawk .357, but to each his own.


Here's the discussion of the assault weapon ban:
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A February 2013 Congressional Research Service (CRS) report to Congress said that the "Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 was unsuccessfully challenged as violating several constitutional provisions" but that challenges to three constitutional provisions were easily dismissed.[20]:7 The ban did not make up an impermissible bill of attainder.[21]:31 It was not unconstitutionally vague.[22] Also, it was ruled to be compatible with the Ninth Amendment by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.[23]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...lt_Weapons_Ban
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Your aim doesn't really matter.
Now I KNOW you're just playing.
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The SC refused the case, and deferred back to the lower court at the time.

Heard in Heller v D.C. and McDonald v. Chicago. Found not to be Constitutional in both cases.


No "ban" firearm was used in Columbine, and before Vegas Jihad, the worst mass shooting was done with a handgun.
Illegally purchased weapons were used at Columbine.


Once again - just to be clear - I am opposed to selling clip fed and magazine fed semiautomatic weapons to the general public. That includes pistols.
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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No. I would not make any gun illegal.
My position is, the guns we are talking about should no longer be sold. You can keep what you have or you may sell it to the government. You may not sell it to another individual. Not ever, under any circumstances, although you should be able to leave it to your family after your death.



Most mass killings have been done by individuals who purchased the guns relatively recently, and sometimes purchased them legally. They should not be for sale at all. Colt recently announced that they will no longer sell long guns to civilians. Some retailers are joining in. We will eventually win this battle.
Hardly


Every day you sit on your hands we are buying thousands more. Millions more every year. Just face it. You lost your "battle" a good 30 years ago. Are you going to move out of the US? That's the only way you will eventually not be surrounded by the made up term assault weapons. MILLIONS each year and it's picking up speed.

Just for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx23c84obwQ
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Now I KNOW you're just playing.
I used to think he was a troll but he's displayed too much detailed info on anarcho-communism and anarcho-syndicalism.

He really believes all of this.

Terrifying.
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