No affirmative action for any race - 43% of whites at Harvard admitted because of athletics or children of donors (suspect, high school)

[Eumaois]

Even if you had as many laws that condemn affirmative action as possible (paper or in theory), actually implementing as many anti-affirmative action policies as possible is perhaps a bigger issue (in practice).

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Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment

No. The study found that 43% of white students were athletes, legacy, or related to major donors. It did not find that all of those students were admitted because of that status. No doubt some fraction of them would have been admitted on merit, regardless of other factors.

Worth repeating.

[Icy Tea]

At Harvard your grades aren't as important as your political desirability.

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Originally Posted by vacommonwealth

I am a white male but if whites can't compete with Asians, then no special treatment. A study finds 43% of white students at Harvard were not admitted on merit but because of athletics, related to donors or children of faculty.

If daddy was a donor or you can play squash or water Polo, you are set.

https://qz.com/1713033/at-harvard-43...s-or-athletes/

Yet whites are actually the most underrepresented racial group at Harvard. Whether you go by academic merit or percentage of the population in that age range, whites get barely half the number of slots they would get if treated equally.

[boneyard1962]

Originally Posted by vacommonwealth

I am a white male but if whites can't compete with Asians, then no special treatment. A study finds 43% of white students at Harvard were not admitted on merit but because of athletics, related to donors or children of faculty.

If daddy was a donor or you can play squash or water Polo, you are set.

https://qz.com/1713033/at-harvard-43...s-or-athletes/

Do you really want to bring sports scholarships into this discussion? How many of those black athletes given a full ride because they are good at football or basketball can spell, cat, without help?

Ivy leagues have always set aside seats for donors and alumni. That will also work in favor of their minority students someday.

Now I have room to complain. My daughters are half white and half asian. They didn't get any breaks. Our household also made over 175 g a year. Luckily they nailed their SAT's and had seriously high GPAs. Their hard work is the only help that helped pay the bills. Needless to say they didn't choose art majors.

[Rakin]

Wonder what the dropout rate is for minorities, athletes and children of donors.

Bet someone has those figures.

But they probably have people who help with the numbers anyway.

[Lycanmaster]

Originally Posted by Indentured Servant

Harvard actually did a study several years ago, seeking to understand why the US was so different from Europe in regards to social policies. When you think about it....the US is truly the oddity in the developed world in that respect.



The study concluded that ONE of the major reasons for a much less robust social safety net and policies had to do with racism. It concluded that many Americans would be for it IF they thought that the people who would benefit from it looked like them. In other words, Americans are mostly against it because they see people who do not look like them getting the most from such government spending and taxes.



I think its that MANY conservatives are for giveaways and freebies.....if they are getting them and not people who don't look like them.

So basically you need a more homogeneous population in order to implement social welfare policies...

Although in Europe, that is beginning to change now as well...

So maybe the "alt-right" was actually correct this whole time???

[Lycanmaster]

Originally Posted by EddieB.Good

That's exactly it. We would've been had universal hc if this country was 99% White.

But I thought "diversity is our strength!" was supposed to be an accepted canon

[SFBayBoomer]

Originally Posted by vacommonwealth

...children of politicians. ...I will check on billy carter

Fact Check: Billy Carter was no national politician's son, and he didn't attend an ivy league university. He attended Emory University in Atlanta but did not complete a degree.

Amy Carter, daughter of President Jimmy Carter, received a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree (BFA) from the Memphis College of Art and a master's degree in art history from Tulane University in New Orleans.

[ReineDeCoeur]

No surprise here. Whites have always had and continue to have affirmative action. The problem with AA only arose when there was a program established for minorities. The same occurred with welfare. It was acceptable to whites when it was basically accessible to them alone.

Originally Posted by EddieB.Good

I've been preaching about White AA for years, everytime someone tries to create a thread on the unfairness of race based AA. This will thread will be crickets.

White Conservatives especially LOVE freebies, socialism, and cutting the line as long as they're the only ones allowed to do it.

The core of the alt-Right movement is socialism for White people. It's no surprise that they'd love to keep these AA programs in place, but take away ones that benefit Black & Brown kids.

Exactly.