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Old 10-03-2019, 09:53 PM
 
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Lol, thats pretty naive. In college I was acquaintances with at least 2 dozen education majors and that was the prevailing theme among them. As an adult I'm acquaintances with multiple teachers and at least half of them have said or implied that. I'm sure some do it for good reasons, but lets not try to sugar coat this. I've heard 100s of stories, I know exactly what they go through, and as someone who works in the professional business world I have no sympathy for them. Their "struggles" are no different than my own.
Ok let’s compare your struggles to teachers. They have to deal with overcrowded classrooms and paying for supplies out of their own pocket. They have to deal with unruly kids, administration and parents on a daily basis. This is in addition to actually trying to teach. And let’s talk about the special ed kids. You can’t just go in and teach them when you have no idea what you are doing.
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I mean, starting salary for a lot of corporate 'entry level jobs" (that require a college degree) is around $40,000. Starting salary for teachers doesn't seem THAT far off.

Seems like we could at least increase it to that of an entry level corporate drone
That "corporate drone" most likely works far more than 180 days a year. Ask the drone how they'd like 10 weeks of summer vacation, 2 weeks of Christmas, "spring break" and every federal holiday off. To say nothing of the benefits and pension of government workers.
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:57 PM
 
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Ok let’s compare your struggles to teachers. They have to deal with overcrowded classrooms and paying for supplies out of their own pocket. They have to deal with unruly kids, administration and parents on a daily basis. This is in addition to actually trying to teach. And let’s talk about the special ed kids. You can’t just go in and teach them when you have no idea what you are doing.
It’s not jail.

Don’t like it? Get another job. Nothing is stopping them.
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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PLUS they get social security too, so maybe another $20-30K depending on the variables? Oh, and health care too, no?
Last I checked, CPS teachers do not pay into social security - so no. Unless they work another job ... summers perhaps ... to pay enough into ss by the time they retire.
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:00 PM
 
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So why did they become teachers then?
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Ok let’s compare your struggles to teachers. They have to deal with overcrowded classrooms and paying for supplies out of their own pocket. They have to deal with unruly kids, administration and parents on a daily basis. This is in addition to actually trying to teach. And let’s talk about the special ed kids. You can’t just go in and teach them when you have no idea what you are doing.
Just stop.

This may be the experience of your daughter.

But it's not the experience of all teachers.
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:04 PM
 
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Ok let’s compare your struggles to teachers. They have to deal with overcrowded classrooms and paying for supplies out of their own pocket. They have to deal with unruly kids, administration and parents on a daily basis. This is in addition to actually trying to teach. And let’s talk about the special ed kids. You can’t just go in and teach them when you have no idea what you are doing.
I deal with adults who act like children, I deal with corporate downsizing that requires shared office space and reserving a room or spending an hour trying to find a place to work when I travel, I buy most of my own supplies, and sometimes my own technology, I deal with unruly adults, I deal with extra work load because people with kids think they can call out and not do work because little johnny has a hang-nail every other day, I deal with "special" supposedly "adults" who cant be talked to in in certain ways, cant be bothered at certain times of the day/week/month because they are "busy" then, I deal with doing extra work because of head count reduction (ie I work more because people got laid off), and I deal with a ton of political BS that most adults should be above.

ZERO sympathy, teachers or business professionals all deal with a ton of BS. Teachers aren't f'ign special, at least they get 3 months off, I only get 1 month.

And honestly, its not THAT bad, because I'm a grown adult and I make it work.
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:15 PM
 
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Just stop.

This may be the experience of your daughter.

But it's not the experience of all teachers.
This is the experience of all teachers. Why do you think there have been protests throughout the country.
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:18 PM
 
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I deal with adults who act like children, I deal with corporate downsizing that requires shared office space and reserving a room or spending an hour trying to find a place to work when I travel, I buy most of my own supplies, and sometimes my own technology, I deal with unruly adults, I deal with extra work load because people with kids think they can call out and not do work because little johnny has a hang-nail every other day, I deal with "special" supposedly "adults" who cant be talked to in in certain ways, cant be bothered at certain times of the day/week/month because they are "busy" then, I deal with doing extra work because of head count reduction (ie I work more because people got laid off), and I deal with a ton of political BS that most adults should be above.

ZERO sympathy, teachers or business professionals all deal with a ton of BS. Teachers aren't f'ign special, at least they get 3 months off, I only get 1 month.

And honestly, its not THAT bad, because I'm a grown adult and I make it work.
Teachers are very special because they teach kids that would never be admitted into private schools.
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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This is the experience of all teachers. Why do you think there have been protests throughout the country.
No. It's. Not.

I know you think your daughter is the second coming of Saint Jean-Baptiste de La Salle, but her experience is not everyone's experience.
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