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Old 10-14-2019, 06:50 PM
 
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I've posted the numbers before and the number of cops shot or attacked by black males is at a much higher rate than those shot or attacked by white males. In that regard, you can understand the trigger finger - but that means more training is needed.
Both the Guyger incident and this incident happened in areas of Dallas and Fort Worth respectively that I perceive as unsafe as a resident of the area. These are not great neighborhoods. I would not go to either of those neighborhoods because I value my safety.

This may be related to the perception of a threat.
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Old 10-14-2019, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Right. And without releasing any information on exactly where that firearm was kept.
I agree. And this is Texas, so owning a firearm isn't something unusual. Unless the gun played a part in the decision of the now ex-cop to fire his weapon, showing the gun was completely inappropriate and irrelevant.
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Old 10-14-2019, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Both the Guyger incident and this incident happened in areas of Dallas and Fort Worth respectively that I perceive as unsafe as a resident of the area. These are not great neighborhoods. I would not go to either of those neighborhoods because I value my safety.

This may be related to the perception of a threat.
Then I assume you're smart enough not to become a cop since you might be assigned to those neighborhoods.

There's no excuse for what this cop did.
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Old 10-14-2019, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Both the Guyger incident and this incident happened in areas of Dallas and Fort Worth respectively that I perceive as unsafe as a resident of the area. These are not great neighborhoods. I would not go to either of those neighborhoods because I value my safety.

This may be related to the perception of a threat.
Perhaps.

But, not that you're arguing otherwise, it is expected that police officers behave professionally and only use deadly force when it is reasonably justified. From what we know so far, the use of deadly force here doesn't seem to be justified.
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:02 PM
 
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Then I assume you're smart enough not to become a cop since you might be assigned to those neighborhoods.

There's no excuse for what this cop did.
I did not become a police officer.

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Perhaps.

But, not that you're arguing otherwise, it is expected that police officers behave professionally and only use deadly force when it is reasonably justified. From what we know so far, the use of deadly force here doesn't seem to be justified.
The details that have emerged to this point do not look good for that former police officer.
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:07 PM
 
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Right. And without releasing any information on exactly where that firearm was kept.
She wasn't holding the gun, right? Where was the gun? I've only seen a blurry photo of a gun laying on something, a sheet maybe? We all own guns, so unless she was pointing it at him, I don't see a problem.
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Nowhere
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She wasn't holding the gun, right? Where was the gun? I've only seen a blurry photo of a gun laying on something, a sheet maybe? We all own guns, so unless she was pointing it at him, I don't see a problem.
I heard she was holding the gun.
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Correct charge imo. This is basically 2nd degree murder in Texas.

Murder but without premeditation.

Capital murder is the 1st degree murder charge in TX.
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:19 PM
 
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I heard she was holding the gun.
It hasn't been reported that she was holding it. The report I heard said it was found on the floor of the bedroom she was in, so I presume she was holding it and probably dropped it when she was shot. Doesn't seem like most people would leave a gun laying on the floor esp with a child in the house.
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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What is wrong with these cops? Are you that jittery that you shoot someone in their home? Be interesting to see who the cop is.
Ex-cop now. He's been all over the news.
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