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Old 10-31-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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He wasn't being singled out, that just happened to be a high profile and clearly visible example of corruption in the Ukraine worth looking into if the new president meant what he ran on.

The ONLY reason the former LTC had a problem with it was partisan in nature. Party over country.
Exactly what Ukrainian laws did Hunter Biden break?

You are alleging he's a criminal, based on zero evidence that he's ever engaged in criminal activity.

Do you realize that?
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Old 10-31-2019, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Evidently you are unaware that many of the people testifying are releasing, ahead of their testimony, detailed opening statements that tell us what they are going to testify to.
This is a huge thing. Not only are people voluntarily testifying, but they are also releasing public statements that cannot be misinterpreted. Crimes have been committed. Our system of checks and balances is finally waking up. This is one of the truest tests of our republic, and it's starting to look like we have the spine we need.
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Old 10-31-2019, 07:48 AM
 
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Even the "whistle blower" said it was the full transcript.
https://politicalwire.com/2019/10/09...leblower-memo/
From the Whistle Blowers memo in his own words... and I quote




https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-whi...ews-exclusive/
The transcript that was released to the public is not the verbatim transcript.

The transcript that was released to the public even states that, explicitly.
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Old 10-31-2019, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You forgot to add Republicans that don't shield him from impeachment, including many of his former cabinet members, to the "enemies" list
Let's not be too harsh here.




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and Erdogan and MBS to the "allies" list.
They're more like partners in crime.

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Old 10-31-2019, 07:58 AM
 
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From the Whistle Blowers own memo.


The only one that tried to alter the hard copy and got caught, was Vindman.
Well, this is truly a twisted version of events.

The whistleblower wasn't on the phone call, and so could not say, and did not say that the transcript the President had released was the transcript that is routinely produced from these phone calls. As a matter of FACT (something you seem to have issues with), the transcript that is routinely produced has not been released to the public. Instead, a transcript was cobbled together of people's recollections and notes taken during the call. It was that transcript that Vindman felt was incomplete, and wanted to include what he recalled from the conversation. Vindman never tried to alter the actual transcript that has never been released, and so he certainly wasn't "caught" trying to do so.
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Old 10-31-2019, 08:00 AM
 
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Exactly what Ukrainian laws did Hunter Biden break?

You are alleging he's a criminal, based on zero evidence that he's ever engaged in criminal activity.

Do you realize that?
I never suggested that he did and I never suggested he was a criminal aside from being a literal crackhead.

He was merely hired to buy influence over Joe Biden, just like many other companies have done before, so that the company's criminal activity could be swept under the rug by firing the prosecutor going after them and ending the investigation.

The crackhead son didn't necissarily do anything illegal, he just profits off of his father's corruption which is fine.

Furthermore, there's no way to prove that Biden did what he did specifically because the company bought him off by hitting his crackhead son so there's no criminal investigation that would harm him either. The only people that would be harmed by that investigation criminally would be those at Buresma.... but what the leakers were worried about was potential political harm to Joe Biden by exposing his likely but unprovable corruption.
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Old 10-31-2019, 08:01 AM
 
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If the president were a democrat, and a Purple Heart recipient LtCol suggested that the POTUS was involved in quid pro quo and illegal activity, the Trump crowd would be screaming for impeachment.

Trump voters = Hypocrites.
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Old 10-31-2019, 08:05 AM
 
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I never suggested that he did and I never suggested he was a criminal aside from being a literal crackhead.

He was merely hired to buy influence over Joe Biden, just like many other companies have done before, so that the company's criminal activity could be swept under the rug by firing the prosecutor going after them and ending the investigation.

The crackhead son didn't necissarily do anything illegal, he just profits off of his father's corruption which is fine.
Key Takeaway: What Biden's son did is unseemly but both routinely done and completely illegal. There was thus no reason to suggest opening a criminal investigation was appropriate, much less demand that one be publicly announced. This is one of the main reasons why Trump's request and his leveraging of strategic aid and diplomatic favors to open such an investigation impeachable.


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Furthermore, there's no way to prove that Biden did what he did specifically because the company bought him off by hitting his crackhead son so there's no criminal investigation that would harm him either. The only people that would be harmed by that investigation criminally would be those at Buresma.... but what the leakers were worried about was potential political harm to Joe Biden by exposing his likely but unprovable corruption.
Actually, the absence of any active investigation (and fact that no investigation of Burisma concerning activity during Hunter's employment ever exited) at the time Biden was sent to Ukraine to have Shokin removed is proof that he wasn't doing it to halt an investigation - after all, you can't stop what doesn't exist. The fact that Biden was sent at the behest and direction of the State Department to implement formal US policy, with the support of the rest of the G-7 and IMF, further proves that he did not do it for personal gain.
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Old 10-31-2019, 08:05 AM
 
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I never suggested that he did and I never suggested he was a criminal aside from being a literal crackhead.

He was merely hired to buy influence over Joe Biden, just like many other companies have done before, so that the company's criminal activity could be swept under the rug by firing the prosecutor going after them and ending the investigation.

The crackhead son didn't necissarily do anything illegal, he just profits off of his father's corruption which is fine.

Furthermore, there's no way to prove that Biden did what he did specifically because the company bought him off by hitting his crackhead son so there's no criminal investigation that would harm him either. The only people that would be harmed by that investigation criminally would be those at Buresma.... but what the leakers were worried about was potential political harm to Joe Biden by exposing his likely but unprovable corruption.
Then you make no sense. If Hunter Biden didn't do anything illegal, investigating him serves what purpose?
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Old 10-31-2019, 08:05 AM
 
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If the president were a democrat, and a Purple Heart recipient LtCol suggested that the POTUS was involved in quid pro quo and illegal activity, the Trump crowd would be screaming for impeachment.

Trump voters = Hypocrites.
Where in the statement does he accuse the POTUS of " illegal activity " ?
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