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Old 11-08-2019, 11:01 AM
 
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If Trump want to take credit for something that has never happened before, with blacks, such as record low unemployment.....he would have to demonstrate an action that was never taken before. What has Trump done that has not been done before that would account for record black unemployment"?
Um... just a little insider info... what he did for black folk is the same thing he did for white folk... lowered taxes... reduced burdensome regulations... sought to bring jobs back to America.

In other words, he focused on bringing more jobs here and got the government out of the way so that people were more able to access jobs and start small businesses.


Shhh.... don't tell anyone...
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:22 AM
 
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Why would blacks need to learn about the good Trump is doing for minorities through the media if they are experiencing them?
You do realize that it is a black man who is angry at the media for not reporting/celebrating right?

Liberal media consistently downplays Trump's support for black community
“What the president has done and is doing for our country, for the black community, is so underrated. It gets downplayed at every turn by the liberal media,” David Harris Jr. said, touting the new initiative of the Trump 2020 campaign.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/black-...-liberal-media
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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This is the first time in my lifetime that every adult male in my extended has been employed full time. My sister is a life long Democrat and for the first time all her boys have “real” jobs and are feeling positive about their future prospects. She told me she may not be able to bring herself to vote for him, but she isn’t going to vote against him, either.

If the party faithful of one party sits out the election and the loyal supporters of the candidate of the other party come out in droves we all can guess the results.
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:42 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Good article written by a disgusted black guy focused on how blacks aren’t learning about all the accomplishments Trump is doing for minorities because there’s a blackout with liberal media, not wanting blacks to hear these accomplishes.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/black-...-liberal-media

I’m reading more and more about growing black enthusiasm for Trump’s achievements in black communities



Of course there’s the record low black unemployment
Black unemployment rate by year,

2009- 16.1
2010- 15.5
2011- 15.4
2012- 14.0
2013- 11.9
2014- 10.6
2015- 8.5
2016- 7.9
2017- 6.7
2018- 6.6
2019- 5.4

Under Obama the black unemployment rate fell from 16.1% to 6.7% (a decrease of 9.4%)
Under Trump the black unemployment rate fell from 6.7% to 5.4% (a decrease of 1.3%)

Who deserves more credit and praise for lowering the black unemployment rate, Obama or Trump?

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006

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and the $350 million Trump got for black colleges and scholarships.
Donald Trumps budget cuts billions of dollars in funding for black colleges and black college students.

"President Trump’s proposed budget would cut federal student aid programs by more than $143 billion over 10 years; in effect, shifting those resources into defense spending."

Trumps budget "includes nearly $350 million in cuts to Title III, Part A grants that support colleges with large populations of low-income and minority students."

Trumps budget takes away $5.2 billion dollars from Pell grant reserves.

Trumps budget "requests $500 million—a 50 percent cut— for Federal Work-Study."

Trumps budget eliminates Perkins Loans for financially needy students.

Trumps budget "increase loan debt for more than 6 million undergraduates."

Trumps budget also cuts New Income-Driven Student Loan Repayment, HBCU Historic Preservation Program, HBCU STEM Programs, and HBCU/Minority Institutions Research & Development Program.
https://www.uncf.org/news/trump-admi...-hbcu-programs


And Donald Trump has already transferred the above funding to the richest 1% of Americans via the Trump tax cuts.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno...nalysis-finds/
https://time.com/4993389/tax-cuts-your-children/

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Two accomplishments the article didn’t even bring up is Trump’s “Opportunity Zones “ giving tax breaks to businesses creating jobs and training for minorities in blighted impoverished areas.
"The dressed-up descriptions of opportunity zones boast moving “billions of dollars into low-income communities,” what they actually do is gentrify the very neighborhoods they pretend to revitalize, displacing black and brown working-class people from their homes and further destabilizing already vulnerable areas, all to benefit wealthy developers, like Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner."
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/op...ods-2019-10-29

Trumps "Opportunity Zones" allow "wealthy investors to benefit from huge tax breaks while they speculate at the expense of the most vulnerable communities."
https://upriseri.com/2019-11-06-opportunity-zones/

Trumps "Opportunity Zones" give tax cuts to the wealthy and politically connected.
https://www.propublica.org/article/b...to-investigate

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Old 11-08-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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Um... just a little insider info... what he did for black folk is the same thing he did for white folk... lowered taxes... reduced burdensome regulations... sought to bring jobs back to America.

In other words, he focused on bringing more jobs here and got the government out of the way so that people were more able to access jobs and start small businesses.


Shhh.... don't tell anyone...
So is this the first time that taxes have been lowered, regulations have been reduced, ect? These things happened in the past....usually each time a republican took office....yet....this is the FIRST time black unemployment has reached these levels. Thus, again, if he want to take credit for something that never happened before, he or you need to demonstrate him doing something that has never been done before. Otherwise I am inclined to believe that the MOMENTUM, from the previous administration, as it relates to the trend in unemployment.....is simply continuing.
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Black unemployment rate by year,

2009- 16.1
2010- 15.5
2011- 15.4
2012- 14.0
2013- 11.9
2014- 10.6
2015- 8.5
2016- 7.9
2017- 6.7
2018- 6.6
2019- 5.4

Under Obama the black unemployment rate fell from 16.1% to 6.7% (a decrease of 9.4%)
Under Trump the black unemployment rate fell from 6.7% to 5.5% (a decrease of 1.3%)

Who deserves more credit and praise for lowering the black unemployment rate, Obama or Trump?

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006



"President Trump’s proposed budget would cut federal student aid programs by more than $143 billion over 10 years; in effect, shifting those resources into defense spending."

Trumps budget "includes nearly $350 million in cuts to Title III, Part A grants that support colleges with large populations of low-income and minority students."

Trumps budget takes away $5.2 billion dollars from Pell grant reserves.

Trumps budget "requests $500 million—a 50 percent cut— for Federal Work-Study."

Trumps budget eliminates Perkins Loans for financially needy students.

Trumps budget "increase loan debt for more than 6 million undergraduates."

Trumps budget also cuts New Income-Driven Student Loan Repayment, HBCU Historic Preservation Program, HBCU STEM Programs, and HBCU/Minority Institutions Research & Development Program.

https://www.uncf.org/news/trump-admi...-hbcu-programs


And Trump has already transferred the above funding to the richest 1% of Americans via the Trump tax cuts.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno...nalysis-finds/
https://time.com/4993389/tax-cuts-your-children/



Trumps "Opportunity Zones" allow "wealthy investors to benefit from huge tax breaks while they speculate at the expense of the most vulnerable communities."
https://upriseri.com/2019-11-06-opportunity-zones/

Trumps "Opportunity Zones" give tax cuts to the wealthy and politically connected.
https://www.propublica.org/article/b...to-investigate

"The dressed-up descriptions of opportunity zones boast moving “billions of dollars into low-income communities,” what they actually do is gentrify the very neighborhoods they pretend to revitalize, displacing black and brown working-class people from their homes and further destabilizing already vulnerable areas, all to benefit wealthy developers, like Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner."
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/op...ods-2019-10-29
Buh, buh, but it was all God Emperor Trump!!!!!!
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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So is this the first time that taxes have been lowered, regulations have been reduced, ect? These things happened in the past....usually each time a republican took office....yet....this is the FIRST time black unemployment has reached these levels. Thus, again, if he want to take credit for something that never happened before, he or you need to demonstrate him doing something that has never been done before. Otherwise I am inclined to believe that the MOMENTUM, from the previous administration, as it relates to the trend in unemployment.....is simply continuing.
I listed three things... you mentioned only two. Nice try.

Nobody has battled the tariff issue. He has restructured agreements with Mexico and Canada. He has focused on bringing jobs here like no other President - and it had to work in cohesion with the tax cuts and decreased regulations so that companies can change directions more easily.

You're not stupid.... you know this stuff has been discussed.
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Good article written by a disgusted black guy focused on how blacks aren’t learning about all the accomplishments Trump is doing for minorities because there’s a blackout with liberal media, not wanting blacks to hear these accomplishes.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/black-...-liberal-media
I’m reading more and more about growing black enthusiasm for Trump’s achievements in black communities
Of course there’s the record low black unemployment and the $350 million Ttrump got for black colleges and scholarships.
Two accomplishments the article didn’t even bring up is Trump’s “Opportunity Zones “ giving tax breaks to businesses creating jobs and training for minorities in blighted impoverished areas.
Also Ivanka’s Skills Training program is seeing many blacks getting valuable training for good paying skills jobs
in tech, auto, robotics etc instead of hiring foreigners with these skill sets, she is focused on Training Americans. Blacks need to know more about these skill training programs available, but liberal media isn’t letting them know.
I am pretty sure the black community has the same channels on their tv as everyone else. Don't they watch Fox News? And if not, why? Hmmm...there must be a reason....

Kind of ironic that Fox News is focused on promoting this idea when they have a white audience, with 1% black viewers. Maybe Fox News should attempt to reach more black viewers to spread the news that they aren't grateful enough to Trump.

https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-wh...ration-1067807
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:15 PM
 
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I listed three things... you mentioned only two. Nice try.

Nobody has battled the tariff issue. He has restructured agreements with Mexico and Canada. He has focused on bringing jobs here like no other President - and it had to work in cohesion with the tax cuts and decreased regulations so that companies can change directions more easily.

You're not stupid.... you know this stuff has been discussed.
My apologies....I did not intentionally leave out anything from your original list.

Yes....Trump has been aggressive on tariffs and trade......but what industries does that impact the most and are blacks represented in those industries and sectors to the degree that it would lower black unemployment? I would think manufacturing and agriculture would be the big impacted industries as it relates to tariffs and trade. Do you have that data on black employment in mfg and agriculture?
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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Black unemployment rate by year,

2009- 16.1
2010- 15.5
2011- 15.4
2012- 14.0
2013- 11.9
2014- 10.6
2015- 8.5
2016- 7.9
2017- 6.7
2018- 6.6
2019- 5.4

Under Obama the black unemployment rate fell from 16.1% to 6.7% (a decrease of 9.4%)
Under Trump the black unemployment rate fell from 6.7% to 5.4% (a decrease of 1.3%)

Who deserves more credit and praise for lowering the black unemployment rate, Obama or Trump?

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006



Donald Trumps budget cuts billions of dollars in funding for black colleges and black college students.

"President Trump’s proposed budget would cut federal student aid programs by more than $143 billion over 10 years; in effect, shifting those resources into defense spending."

Trumps budget "includes nearly $350 million in cuts to Title III, Part A grants that support colleges with large populations of low-income and minority students."

Trumps budget takes away $5.2 billion dollars from Pell grant reserves.

Trumps budget "requests $500 million—a 50 percent cut— for Federal Work-Study."

Trumps budget eliminates Perkins Loans for financially needy students.

Trumps budget "increase loan debt for more than 6 million undergraduates."

Trumps budget also cuts New Income-Driven Student Loan Repayment, HBCU Historic Preservation Program, HBCU STEM Programs, and HBCU/Minority Institutions Research & Development Program.
https://www.uncf.org/news/trump-admi...-hbcu-programs


And Donald Trump has already transferred the above funding to the richest 1% of Americans via the Trump tax cuts.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno...nalysis-finds/
https://time.com/4993389/tax-cuts-your-children/



"The dressed-up descriptions of opportunity zones boast moving “billions of dollars into low-income communities,” what they actually do is gentrify the very neighborhoods they pretend to revitalize, displacing black and brown working-class people from their homes and further destabilizing already vulnerable areas, all to benefit wealthy developers, like Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner."
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/op...ods-2019-10-29

Trumps "Opportunity Zones" allow "wealthy investors to benefit from huge tax breaks while they speculate at the expense of the most vulnerable communities."
https://upriseri.com/2019-11-06-opportunity-zones/

Trumps "Opportunity Zones" give tax cuts to the wealthy and politically connected.
https://www.propublica.org/article/b...to-investigate
So you start at 2009 - which is when the fallout of the mortgage crisis it - which makes the numbers worse than normal. 2009-2010 were not normal years - so to use them for comparison purposes is not good practice.

Take your link above and change the date to 2001. You will see a more realistic number before the mortgage crisis hit. In August 2007, the black unemployment rate was 7.6% - which is a more realistic number.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006



You aren't stupid... why can't you be honest with the numbers?
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