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Old 12-02-2019, 05:30 AM
 
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The issue isn't about nukes, it's about being able to transport a weapon. There was a post a few years back in the PA forum where a NY resident wanted to take his gun to a vacation residence in PA. His problem wasn't PA but legally getting it to the border. Federal law would prevent NY from charging me with transporting a firearm through NY as long as I can legally possess it where I'm departing from to my destination. In that case I have more rights than someone that lives there.
A few years back NJ police ARRESTED a women who was driving TROUGH the state and had a gun in here trunk. She held a LEGAL Concealed Carry permit from her home state.

The repub NJ Go. Chris Christy had her released and all charges dropped.

ALL driver's licenses are recognized nationwide and they are only a "privilege' yet carrying a gun, "shall NOT be infringed", is a RIGHT, is NOT recognized in all states as it should be.
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Old 12-02-2019, 05:44 AM
 
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What impact did they have?

You can now own a handgun if you are a resident of DC for starters (or anywhere else that outright banned ownership).



Many of these laws like the one we are discussing here came about because of that decision. They can't ban the gun so they just create laws making it expensive, difficult or impractical to own one.




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The impact will be small, no matter how you spin it.

It's not just the places that have a law like this in place, it would prevent any more laws like this from being implemented. The fundamental issue here is the ability to transport a firearm so it's not something that is trivial.
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Old 12-02-2019, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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A few years back NJ police ARRESTED a women who was driving TROUGH the state and had a gun in here trunk. She held a LEGAL Concealed Carry permit from her home state.

The repub NJ Go. Chris Christy had her released and all charges dropped.

ALL driver's licenses are recognized nationwide and they are only a "privilege' yet carrying a gun, "shall NOT be infringed", is a RIGHT, is NOT recognized in all states as it should be.

The problem was that she was NOT travelling THROUGH the state, but had a destination in the state. She thought her PA LTCF (carry permit) was good in NJ. It was not, but she did not know that and they arrested her.
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Old 12-02-2019, 05:55 AM
 
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A few years back NJ police ARRESTED a women who was driving TROUGH the state and had a gun in here trunk. She held a LEGAL Concealed Carry permit from her home state.

The federal law allows you to transport it through a state, it doesn't cover concealed carry etc. You still need to store it properly in your vehicle. That said I would avoid driving through any state with strict gun laws if it can be avoided.



There is actually better example of this. Someone from Utah was traveling to PA, he was legal in both states. He checked his gun in Utah. His plane was late getting to Newark and he missed the connecting flight to PA. They had a bus because it was short trip to PA but his bag with his gun never made it onto the bus. He got off the bus, collected his bag with the gun and stayed at a hotel nearby. Next day he goes to get on the plane and check the gun and they arrest him.


He spent a few weeks in jail, they eventually released him with no charges but ended up taking a few years to get his gun back.
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Old 12-02-2019, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The NYC laws has already been repealed.
They repealed because they understood they went too far and might lose but the case moved forward.
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Old 12-02-2019, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You can now own a handgun if you are a resident of DC for starters (or anywhere else that outright banned ownership).
That's what I mean. Local impact only, but it was still a good ruling. The Supreme Court exists to review cases (small and large) which might need to be overturned.

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It's not just the places that have a law like this in place, it would prevent any more laws like this from being implemented. The fundamental issue here is the ability to transport a firearm so it's not something that is trivial.
Cool beans. Like I said, it will have no impact in vast majority of the nation, but its good they look into it even if its only few isolated places.
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Old 12-02-2019, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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yes I did. did you read the USA Today article? it lays out how it could happen.
I missed the USA article, those are quotes from the Cato Institute and the NRA not your most objective sources. I don't see the decision on carrying a gun outside the city limits turn into a national reciprocal agreement to carry guns in any state. That's just wishful thinking, the supreme court doesn't have any interest in taking up any of these cases except when they cross the line.
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Old 12-02-2019, 06:20 AM
 
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That's what I mean. Local impact only, but it was still a good ruling. The Supreme Court exists to review cases (small and large) which might need to be overturned.

The Heller case affirmed a citizens right to own a gun. It did not cover the how and where, this case can do that. A ruling by SCOTUS could go beyond the scope of the now rescinded law and have wide ranging consequences for the how and where.
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Old 12-02-2019, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The Heller case affirmed a citizens right to own a gun. It did not cover the how and where, this case can do that. A ruling by SCOTUS could go beyond the scope of the now rescinded law and have wide ranging consequences for the how and where.
Nah, its about transporting them.
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Old 12-02-2019, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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The Second Amendment is clear. It says the right or THE PEOPLE (NOT government) to keep and BEAR arms (meaning to carry) can NOT BE INFRINGED. The Court will finally start doing their job and enforce it.
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