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Old 10-12-2020, 07:55 AM
 
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The 1918 pandemic ended in 1 year.

The flu pandemic of 1957 lasted 1 year and killed around 2 million people worldwide

The pandemic of 1968 lasted 1 year and killed approximately 1 million people worldwide

The H1N1 (or “swine flu”) pandemic of 2009 lasted 1 year

Covid-19 will at least last 1 year, maybe 1.5 to 2 years.
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Old 10-12-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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When will I stop being forced to wear a mask and not be able to enjoy all my activities and hobbies (IE sports events) for something that has a 0.0001 death rate for ages 0-70?



Will politicians try to keep the rule even once we get a vaccine?
November 4th.
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Old 10-12-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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When will I stop being forced to wear a mask and not be able to enjoy all my activities and hobbies (IE sports events) for something that has a 0.0001 death rate for ages 0-70?



Will politicians try to keep the rule even once we get a vaccine?
When we get a vaccine, obviously.

However, like "the flu", Covid-19 will now always be with us.
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Old 10-12-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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By looking at past pandemics you see they last 18-24 months. Spanish flu, Asian flu, Hong Kong flu. That means by 2022 Wuhan virus should be done. But it will probably never go away completely. Like the 1968 Hong Kong flu that is still with us.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu
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Old 10-12-2020, 07:58 AM
 
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the china virus is not going away folks. a vaccine will help but its already spread too far. it really just depends on how it mutates. i suspect most have already had immunoexposure to it at some level.

edit: i was talking about the flu itself. when the crazed reaction to it goes away depends on politics
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Old 10-12-2020, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Yes. The more people continue to balk at minor inconveniences, the longer it will last.
This.

“Mask mandates, closures of certain businesses and other COVID-19 mitigation strategies implemented over the summer led to a 75% drop in new coronavirus cases in Arizona, according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). ”

https://www.livescience.com/arizona-...ase-cases.html

It’s your choice, OP.
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Old 10-12-2020, 08:01 AM
 
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Nov 3 is when it starts to die down. It won't be like a light switch or anything so binary, but once it has no more use as a weapon to get the Bad Orange Man, people will simply grow bored of it and society will start moving on, same as they do with any national panic.

Until Nov 3, every new infection death, hotspot, etc is a bludgeon to club Trump's campaign with, so it still serves a useful scary purpose. After Nov 3, he is either gone, and who cares about covid anymore, or he is there, and covid didn't work so we need to either find something impeachable or just start grooming an actually decent Dem candidate for 2024.

After Nov 3, it will just slowly sort of start dwindling as part of the news cycle, and then the whole Florida thing will just start spreading. A bunch of my family lives in FL, and to hear them tell it, how paranoid anyone in FL is about covid is purely individual, and the state/towns are pretty much on the "nothing much happening here" plan. I expect that sentiment to just keep growing after Nov 3, because Americans have adjusted their behaviors, are sick of being bossed around are generally bored with the hysteria.

Figure somewhere around Spring 2021, things will be approximately back to pre-covid normal.

All the doom and gloom right now is, again, useful because it can still hurt Bad Orange Man. 3 weeks from now, nobody will care nearly as much. Bank it.
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Old 10-12-2020, 08:04 AM
 
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The 1918 pandemic ended in 1 year.

The flu pandemic of 1957 lasted 1 year and killed around 2 million people worldwide

The pandemic of 1968 lasted 1 year and killed approximately 1 million people worldwide

The H1N1 (or “swine flu”) pandemic of 2009 lasted 1 year

Covid-19 will at least last 1 year, maybe 1.5 to 2 years.
It was active from February 1918 - April 1920, so, two full years.
It was likely prolonged for many of the same reasons that COVID-19 will be: resistance to mitigation efforts, refusal to wear masks, etc.

Humans will human, right OP?
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Old 10-12-2020, 08:09 AM
 
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It seems Europe isn't playing along with the "Nov. 3" theory. Apparently, they have a different agenda there.


Meantime - as long as you focus on the percent of deaths you're totally missing the point, as I'm sure has been pointed out to you 100 times - but you won't accept it.



"Flatten the curve" is about easing the load on medical care, nothing more. It is not - now or then - about reducing deaths (not mainly, anyway). If NO ONE died - it would change nothing. Dead people do not need health care.


This has not changed since March. The stated policies have not changed in their goal since March. The risk to our health care system has not change (much) since March. The fact that it was never overwhelmed is not dumb luck. If you were Leader, would you wait until we're swamped before you did anything at all? No. That would be stupid and irresponsible.


Again - accept it and move on - the death rate barely matters, and you will find no official statement anywhere in any nation where reducing COVID death is EXCLUSIVELY their fundamental goal. It is not.
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Old 10-12-2020, 08:11 AM
 
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It was active from February 1918 - April 1920, so, two full years.
It was likely prolonged for many of the same reasons that COVID-19 will be: resistance to mitigation efforts, refusal to wear masks, etc.

Humans will human, right OP?
https://blogs.cdc.gov/publichealthma...8/05/1918-flu/

“In 1918, as scientists had not yet discovered flu viruses, there were no laboratory tests to detect, or characterize these viruses. There were no vaccines to help prevent flu infection, no antiviral drugs to treat flu illness, and no antibiotics to treat secondary bacterial infections that can be associated with flu infections. Available tools to control the spread of flu were largely limited to non-pharmaceutical interventions”

We are a lot better off now than in 1918. Just look at the differences between March and now.
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