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Old 09-13-2021, 09:45 AM
 
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9/11 Commission....more like whitewash commission, the moment they announced Henry Kissinger was going to be on it set off all kinds of alarms to anyone knowledgeable in the one world government globalist groups that Kissinger is member of most. Then numerous CFR members one of those globalist groups sat on commission, some commission members tied to law firms working for Saudi interests, one was CIA who helped on TWA 800 uh investigation... SMH....

 
Old 09-13-2021, 09:47 AM
 
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Does it make you hate the Democrat Party that now lionizes Bush as a hero, because their entire World perspective is solely dictated through the lens of whether one thinks Donald Trump is a big ole' meanie or not?

I found it odd that so many democrats now say nice things about Bush.


Back when he was president, it was a constant barrage of bad comments about Dubya.


They literally tried to pin every bad thing in him, that they later did to Trump. They called him a racist, a Nazi, said he was stupid...you name it.


Their playbook for lambasting anyone that does not have a "D" after their name has not changed one bit. Everyone loves to say how Trump changed everything and although he was not a member of the DC insider club, the treatment and hatred he received was exactly what was hurled at Bush.
 
Old 09-13-2021, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Weren't Saudi vip families allowed to escape compounds in Florida and I think California following the attack?
I know of 1 wealthy Saudi family in Sarasota who funded, fed, and housed the pilots who flew the planes, & who vanished abruptly 1 week before 9.11 leaving all their belongings behind.

The FBI was embarassed into investigating them, then sealed the records about this families ties to officials in our Federal Gov't for 20 years.

In March, 2022, these records will be unsealed due to a FOIA (freedom of information act) filing done by the Florida Bulldog Org that is finally coming due...

https://www.floridabulldog.org/2021/...core-document/

If these records are indeed released, and not redacted, it will likely show our Federal Gov't had massive cuplability in the 9.11 attacks through their support of wealthy Saudi's here.

I'm betting those American Fed officials will have left the USA by then, and gone into deep hiding abroad with new identities provided by the CIA. They'll never be held accountable.
 
Old 09-13-2021, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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Read the article I posted, the protected him in Sudan. His family is very powerful in Saudi Arabia (they own a construction company).
This is what you WANT to believe. The Saudis had no power to protect UBL in Sudan. They could have protected him in SA, but they didn't. The bin Laden family was wealthy, not powerful. There is a difference.

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I know of 1 wealthy Saudi family in Sarasota who funded, fed, and housed the pilots who flew the planes, & who vanished abruptly 1 week before 9.11 leaving all their belongings behind. The FBI was embarassed into investigating them, then sealed the records about this families ties to officials in our Federal Gov't for 20 years. In March, 2022, these records will be unsealed due to a FOIA (freedom of information act) filing done by the Florida Bulldog Org that is finally coming due... If these records are indeed released, and not redacted, it will likely show our Federal Gov't had massive cuplability in the 9.11 attacks through their support of wealthy Saudi's here. I'm betting those American Fed officials will have left the USA by then, and gone into deep hiding abroad with new identities provided by the CIA. They'll never be held accountable.
What is with these lunatic theories? Do you know any rank and file FBI agents? If the FBI had discovered anyone had provided support for the attackers knowing what the intent of the attackers was, they would have been arrested and prosecuted.

Any culpability that the federal government had in 9-11 was in how badly different agencies worked, or failed to work, with each other. The seeds that allowed 9-11 to happen were planted long before 2001. They started as far back as Church Committee and Jimmy Carter in the mid 1970s, when they destroyed the CIA as an operational organization.
 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Weren't Saudi vip families allowed to escape compounds in Florida and I think California following the attack?
nope


stop believing the conspiracy theories of the left
 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I remember only one plane was allowed to fly that day and it was the Saudi Royal Family’s plane. What was up with that?


False
 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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And I believe OBL's relatives were also hastily flown out of the country. Weird, given that when trying to find someone you'd probably start by asking relatives.
false, that's more liberal conspiracy theories
 
Old 07-16-2022, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Carlton North, Victoria, Australia
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I thought everyone already knew this. Never liked war, but supported them until that happened. It's all about the money...just like every other BS the government comes up with.

They don't care about anyone, just the profits with anything...wars, 'pandemics', taxes, 'security', etc.

And yet some still have faith that the government actually cares about them and their safety.

No, they don't.
As Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page have shown, the US government is totally unresponsive to mass interests, and has been since at least the 1973 energy crisis.

Saudi Arabia is, contrariwise, the nearest thing in today’s world to an ideal model for the richest 1 percent who totally control US politics and policy. Austrian school economist Hans-Hermann Hoppe, in his Democracy — The God That Failed: The Economics and Politics of Monarchy, Democracy and Natural Order, argues that monarchy is inherently better for the extremely rich than even a merely de jure democracy. Hoppe argues that a monarchy has an interest in maintaining its wealth rather than sacrificing it for the demands of the majority, and that the greater the level of democracy, the more wealth will be destroyed by the majority. He thinks this is so because a king and his family actually owns the country they rule, à la a private capitalist, whereas a democratically elected ruler is only interested to do what his voters want. This means a democratic ruler will tax “productive” citizens [which de facto means bosses who do not produce society’s wealth], whereas a monarch will avoid imposing such onerous taxes on business and workers.

Hoppe argues that the Founding Fathers were as rigorously opposed to democracy as pre-Reformation Christianity under the teachings of John Chrysostom, Saint Gregory the Theologian and Bishop Eusebius had been. For them, democracy was ipso facto atheism. In his forthcoming We the Elites: Why the US Constitution Serves the Few, Robert Ovetz of San Jose State University makes essentially the same argument from the opposite perspective, as does Socialist Alternative here. Implicitly Hoppe says that universal-suffrage democracy was supported by no philosopher until Karl Marx.

At the time of the 1973 oil crisis, the US ruling class was very uncomfortable with a substantially democratised country as a result of a black civil rights movement it had accepted to preclude the possibility of apartheid-type international sanctions in the Cold War millieu. With no viable models due to lower-class-drive secularisation since the war in Europe, the oil monarchies became the political model for the world’s super-rich. Their lack of political freedoms, absence of income taxes or economic regulation, and rigid citizenship laws that completely divide the nonelite are — at least privately — viewed by the world’s richest people as the best extant model of society, as well as the model most likely to protect their wealth. It is deeply in the interest of the super-rich to not threaten the existence of these absolutist religious monarchies, regardless of their lack of respect for the peoples of other nations.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 08:47 AM
 
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And I believe OBL's relatives were also hastily flown out of the country. Weird, given that when trying to find someone you'd probably start by asking relatives.
One of those popular 9/11 urban legends that has some truth to it but was twisted out of proportion to meet an agenda.

First of all, as you surely know, Osama Bin Laden was one of 50 siblings but the only child of his mother. The majority of the Bin Ladens in the US at the time of the attacks were university students studying here. None of them probably ever even met Osama in their lives, since he was kicked out of Saudi Arabia and his Saudi citizenship revoked in 1991. They were gathered up and sent home for their own safety. Hell, stupid people were beating up Sikhs. Do you think a college kid with the actual last name "Bin Laden" would have been safe in the US? And don't you think the CIA knew where these people were and if they had connections with Uncle Osama beforehand? It's not as if 9/11 was the first they'd heard of him.

I also clearly recall an interview with one of Osama's brothers who lived in Boston and had a business there. He certainly was questioned and said so in the interview. He said he wasn't going anywhere and that he hadn't seen Osama in 20 years.
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Old 07-16-2022, 08:53 AM
 
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I remember only one plane was allowed to fly that day and it was the Saudi Royal Family’s plane. What was up with that?
I think what's up is that your memory is faulty, lol.
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