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Old 10-11-2021, 06:47 AM
 
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Somehow the the rabid anti-vaxers are aligned with Trump, nothing seems to bring them around to be vaccinated. Strange how a vaccine could become so political.
Do these vaccines provide sterilizing immunity? No.

You can still catch and spread this virus fully vaccinated, as evidenced over the past months.

They reduce your odds of developing severe COVID, in other words they're a form of treatment.

Many people prefer to seek treatments when actually sick, instead of injecting themselves (and running the risk of an adverse event + untold future consequences) when they're perfectly healthy.

Monoclonal antibodies work, when taken early.

These vaccines provide incredibly narrow immunity to one specific protein that could have many repercussions as antibodies wane or the virus sufficiently mutates, see my thread on ADE -> Waning Antibodies and Vaccines and ADE
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Old 10-11-2021, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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Do these vaccines provide sterilizing immunity? No.

You can still catch and spread this virus fully vaccinated, as evidenced over the past months.
Some people can still catch and spread measles with a measles vaccine. Yet we call it a vaccine. Why do you think that is?
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Old 10-11-2021, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I wish Allen West a fast recovery . He is a great patriot who loves his country and he is a Superstar in my book.
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Old 10-11-2021, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Do these vaccines provide sterilizing immunity? No.

You can still catch and spread this virus fully vaccinated, as evidenced over the past months.

They reduce your odds of developing severe COVID, in other words they're a form of treatment.

Many people prefer to seek treatments when actually sick, instead of injecting themselves (and running the risk of an adverse event + untold future consequences) when they're perfectly healthy.

Monoclonal antibodies work, when taken early.

These vaccines provide incredibly narrow immunity to one specific protein that could have many repercussions as antibodies wane or the virus sufficiently mutates, see my thread on ADE -> http:////www.city-data.com/forum/pol...l#post62090618

The odds of ending up seriously ill if vaccinated are greatly reduced, that is a major point and should be highlighted. Why search for an unproven solution when a vaccine is a perfectly good measure against illness. Did people seek alternatives to measles, small pox and polio vaccines, what is the downside of a vaccine that protects from the virus.
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Old 10-11-2021, 06:58 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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He wouldn’t take an FDA approved vaccine, but has no trouble taking an experimental antibody treatment.



There is NO FDA approved vax in the USA. You are being lied to. If there were, the liability immunity would be gone and there would be lawsuit after lawsuit.
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Old 10-11-2021, 06:59 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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He would have had it with or without the vax. The vax does not prevent infection.
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Old 10-11-2021, 07:01 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The odds of ending up seriously ill if vaccinated are greatly reduced, that is a major point and should be highlighted. Why search for an unproven solution when a vaccine is a perfectly good measure against illness. Did people seek alternatives to measles, small pox and polio vaccines, what is the downside of a vaccine that protects from the virus.
That is proven not to be the case in places with high Vax ratio.
Israel, Singapore, The Maldives.

More people have died sine the vax, than before.
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Old 10-11-2021, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Allen West is getting better. His oxygen levels have returned to normal and the treatment is doing what it is suppose to do. God Bless Allen West!
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Old 10-11-2021, 07:03 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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He's getting monoclonal antibodies like Trump did. That treatment will save his life but most of us wouldn't be able to get it if we get COVID. (I see the experimental treatments didn't work. He is in the hospital.)
Stop spewing this outright lie, PLEASE. Not only can you get monoclonal antibodies if you meet the criteria, which he does, you will receive them for free.

Claiming monoclonal treatment is only reserved for special people is indisputable spreading of misinformation and serves no purpose other than building resentment.

Please stop.
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Old 10-11-2021, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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He would have had it with or without the vax. The vax does not prevent infection.
You cannot say that as a fact. It reduces the likelihood of infection.
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