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The U.S. has been involved in some major global events, things that have had a much bigger impact on the world than redlining has had. People in other countries say that Americans are ignorant, and know nothing of the world outside of the United States. You want to take it further than that, and have Americans focus on some very specific, navel-gazing facets of U.S. history.
So how much American history do you know? If I asked you some basic trivia questions, would you be able to answer them?
Probably would be able to given I’m a big reader about history. I also know the history of redlining and Jim Crow. It’s not like humans are only capable of learning one thing or another. We can learn many things and even at the same time. Kids are taught both American and World history so learning one does not have to negate learning the other.
Probably would be able to given I’m a big reader about history. I also know the history of redlining and Jim Crow. It’s not like humans are only capable of learning one thing or another. We can learn many things and even at the same time. Kids are taught both American and World history so learning one does not have to negate learning the other.
You read a lot of history, yet you think that it's possible to learn about every minutiae of U.S. history in a high school survey course? Really? What are some history books that you've read recently?
You read a lot of history, yet you think that it's possible to learn about every minutiae of U.S. history in a high school survey course? Really? What are some history books that you've read recently?
Minutiae? Redlining and Jim Crow are not minutiae. And it’s not like it would take days or even multiple classes to cover those topics. Why are some people so fearful about telling the whole truth? That ending slavery and The Civil Rights movement did not end systemic racism against black folks. Some want the white washed version of history they learned to continue. I think ALL our kids are better served by learning the whole truth ugly though it may be in many ways and not just as it pertains to racism.
Last history book I read was Nathaniel Philbrick’s newest, Travels with George. I’d highly recommend this to anyone who enjoys reading about American history.
I'm not a teacher, but I can safely assume that this is true. "Some" of the trainings....
I think the issue here that one side sees "some" of the ways as racists, so they want to reject the whole thing. It's a MO that that the right follows and uses often.
On the other side, they see "some" things are being whitewashed, and they double-down and want to over-react and point out too much stuff, or even make up ideas that "being white is bad", or some nuance thereof. It is also an MO of "some" on the left, and then the right siezes on that, and tries to negate the entire movement. See above.
The better solution:
Realize that our country has "some" issues in our past that are not savory. We've got a wonderful history, but certainly not a perfect one. Teach where we made mistakes, acknowledge them, and try to educate so we are better, and so we don't keep making the same mistakes. People on BOTH SIDES need to realize that this does not imply that the descendants of those who made the mistakes are not inherently bad. They don't owe anyone anything, other than a fair chance. As such, there is still "some" pervasive ill-effects from our past in today's society. We need to ID these, and continue to improve.
My opinion is that it is not debatable that "some" lasting impacts of slavery, racism, and such still exist. I believe "most" people don't intent that, but it's ingrained in everything we've learned, and that is understandable because, as the saying goes, "history is written by the victors".
Example: I was raised in a Jewish household. I was taught about the evils of the Holocaust. I don't have an ill opinion of Germans, but I have learned enough to see the markings of how the Holocaust was able to happen, and as such, I would like to think I, along with "most" other people, are better equipped to recognize and intervene in some way. I think that is an analogy of how our Racial History should be taught. We should be able to recognize what did happen, what's been fixed, and what has not. To do that, we have to have the discussion. There will always be the noise on the fringe. It's part of the equation and we have to deal with it. We can't shut the whole thing down just because a "few" (aka: "Some") scream too loud. We have to learn and do better.
I guess that's my take. I'm not so concerned on if we call it CRT or something else. I think we have to put the facts on the table, we have to realize that "facts" are subjective when speaking of human nature, and somehow find a way to compassionately try to do better. Always, and in all subjects, not just CRT, not just history, but EVERYTHING. Always do better.
I've never heard any teacher say we shouldn't teach about slavery.
I do hear teachers teach racist and illogical things in the name of wokeness, equity, social justice, etc.
I oppose racism. Therefore I oppose a lot of these woke teachings.
As a teacher I can 100% sincerely say that some of the trainings for teachers and lessons to students are objectively racist and illogical in the name of being woke, equitable, and for social justice.
For example, teaching that only whites are responsible for mass global pollution. That is in fact racist to teach that.
A discussion about racism that does not start out stating a fundamental fact, that all race groups will contain racist members, is not to be taken seriously and can only be categorized as inherently racist. It’s no doubt racist to state, infer or imply that one group of people are the racists while all other groups are not.
I'm not a teacher, but I can safely assume that this is true. "Some" of the trainings....
I think the issue here that one side sees "some" of the ways as racists, so they want to reject the whole thing. It's a MO that that the right follows and uses often.
On the other side, they see "some" things are being whitewashed, and they double-down and want to over-react and point out too much stuff, or even make up ideas that "being white is bad", or some nuance thereof. It is also an MO of "some" on the left, and then the right siezes on that, and tries to negate the entire movement. See above.
The better solution:
Realize that our country has "some" issues in our past that are not savory. We've got a wonderful history, but certainly not a perfect one. Teach where we made mistakes, acknowledge them, and try to educate so we are better, and so we don't keep making the same mistakes. People on BOTH SIDES need to realize that this does not imply that the descendants of those who made the mistakes are not inherently bad. They don't owe anyone anything, other than a fair chance. As such, there is still "some" pervasive ill-effects from our past in today's society. We need to ID these, and continue to improve.
My opinion is that it is not debatable that "some" lasting impacts of slavery, racism, and such still exist. I believe "most" people don't intent that, but it's ingrained in everything we've learned, and that is understandable because, as the saying goes, "history is written by the victors".
Example: I was raised in a Jewish household. I was taught about the evils of the Holocaust. I don't have an ill opinion of Germans, but I have learned enough to see the markings of how the Holocaust was able to happen, and as such, I would like to think I, along with "most" other people, are better equipped to recognize and intervene in some way. I think that is an analogy of how our Racial History should be taught. We should be able to recognize what did happen, what's been fixed, and what has not. To do that, we have to have the discussion. There will always be the noise on the fringe. It's part of the equation and we have to deal with it. We can't shut the whole thing down just because a "few" (aka: "Some") scream too loud. We have to learn and do better.
I guess that's my take. I'm not so concerned on if we call it CRT or something else. I think we have to put the facts on the table, we have to realize that "facts" are subjective when speaking of human nature, and somehow find a way to compassionately try to do better. Always, and in all subjects, not just CRT, not just history, but EVERYTHING. Always do better.
I swear on my grandmother's grave that the following things have been taught to teachers at trainings or/and have been taught to students in some classes at the school I teach at:
-Only white people can be racist.
-Whiteness is defined and with negative spins. No other race defined.
-White people are solely responsible for global mass pollution.
-White people are an invasive species.
-If you support capitalism then you support racism.
-Black people have to fear violence everyday from whites.
-All white people are racist.
These teachings are racist and/or illogical.
This leftist racism is being made into systemic racism as the racist teachings become institutionalized.
Racism doesn't belong in schools.
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