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Old 01-17-2022, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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More and more Americans than ever are recognizing how we got here (reasonably-regulated free enterprise), and what we all have to lose (our pride and dignity as responsible, productive individuals).

The radicals who began hijacking the Democratic Party years ago have no respect for either value/principle.

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And if Trump is the R nominee, as the Clinton camp hopes, she just might win.
And Hilary Clifton is one of the hijackers; she is no more of a "moderate" than is "Bernie" Sanders.

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Old 01-17-2022, 10:12 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Left the Democratic Party after the Kavanaugh nomination. Couldn’t stomach being a Republican so I registered as Independent. I had been a registered democrat for nearly 4 decades. Was probably what you’d call a “Yellow Dog Democrat.” But no more, not this party.

It feels nice to read the comments from other kindred people. We’re not alone.
As Biden and the progressives drag the party to the left, this leaves many moderate Dems without a home.

This is exactly the situation that has Hilary Clinton posturing herself as the Dem Biden-alternative for 2024.

And if Trump is the R nominee, as the Clinton camp hopes, she just might win.
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:12 AM
 
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And the Republicans are not the 1980s and 1990's Republicans.

Signed, a former Republican

It's the party drifting too far left or the party of Donald Trump's whims.
Nope, they are no longer the Bush Republican party. Thank God! The Bush doctrine had a choke hold in that party since 1988 until 2016 and No Republican can say We had overall good results in foreign or domestic.

To say the Bushes were conservatives show how clueless they sound. Trump has been more conservative in governing compared to the 2 Bushes in judges and taxes and less wars and less nation building.


Trump took on the NATO spending and the military welfare while the 2 Bushes were like Santa Clause everyday for them. They never met a war or nation building they didn't like.
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:13 AM
 
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Even the MSM is waking up, this headline reads like top tier poetry:


The left dreamed of remaking America. Now, it stares into the abyss as Biden’s plans wither.




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If Democrats’ Build Back Better and voting rights plans fail, the chances of liberal action to address any of these challenges will be radically diminished. The public has soured on both Biden and the Democratic brand, and the party is now widely considered likely to lose the House of Representatives this fall. It could be years, if not decades, before Democrats again control both branches of Congress and the White House.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...her/ar-AASRstU


Beautiful!
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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This too! AOL is is fake as any of them. Scared half to death.

https://www.aol.com/news/another-mid...142814198.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. midterm elections are some 10 months away, but President Biden's administration and allies already foresee a possible scenario in which Republicans take the House of Representatives, the Senate, or both, and launch a series of investigations and attempts to impeach the president.

Lawmakers, congressional staffers and strategists predict a slew of investigations targeting the Biden administration, particularly if Republicans loyal to former President Donald Trump gain important committee seats in Congress.

Those seeking to pursue investigations include House Republicans Matt Gaetz, who pledged in a podcast to target the Department of Justice until "sphincters tighten," Bob Gibbs, who has been pushing to impeach Biden since September over the Afghanistan pullout, and James Comer, a hopeful to become head of the House Oversight Committee.

Comer's targets include the president's son Hunter Biden, the administration's handling of supply chain issues and vaccine mandates, and its removal of Trump military academy appointees, his office said.

The White House has already taken small steps that will help shield the administration from aggressive probes.

It hired a special advisor, former New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu, to oversee implementation of the $1 trillion infrastructure law, which Republicans would likely scrutinize in search of fraud.

The White House also bolstered the legal counsel's office with a longtime Democratic communications official to help with fallout from the chaotic U.S. troop withdrawal from Afghanistan last year.

Biden's transition team after his 2020 election win formed the White House counsel's office in anticipation of Republicans winning the Senate and pursuing investigations, one team member said.

The January 2021 runoff elections in Georgia left control of the body to Democrats instead but the counsel's office still has that legal firepower.

"We had every reason to believe that it was going to be a Republican Senate," said Andy Wright, director of legal policy for the transition team. "That was built in to the original planning."

That planning included having Jonathan Su, who has experience handling investigations in the Obama White House years, serve as Biden's deputy counsel.

The Biden White House may hire new researchers, lawyers and communications officials to focus on the probes, strategists said.

Ben LaBolt, a former Obama spokesman, said the Clinton and Obama White Houses assembled teams of roughly the same size and expertise as congressional committees pursuing investigations.

“You need to have a parallel structure at the White House that's capable of anticipating those attacks, responding to those attacks,” he said.

Biden plans to travel to states with key political races this year, an adviser said, and the White House hopes Democrats will maintain majorities in Congress on the back of its COVID-19 vaccination rollout and legislative achievements.

The Democratic National Committee is expected to spend heavily in contested races in states such as Wisconsin and Pennsylvania that will also be important in 2024.

If the Republicans do win in November, they are "going to run the same play they did in 2011 but it will be even more unhinged and less credible," said Eric Schultz, a senior adviser to former President Barack Obama who was brought in as a spokesman in the Obama White House to deal with investigations then.

"They’ll subpoena everything under the sun," said Richard Painter, former associate counsel under Republican President George W. Bush.

Among the issues, Republicans could look into the Justice Department's investigation of the deadly Jan. 6 riot on the U.S. Capitol by Trump supporters and thwart the congressional investigation into the attack if it is still ongoing.

“We are going to go after this administrative state, and we are going to start at the Department of Justice and the FBI,” Gaetz said, referring to Jan 6.

Outlays from the COVID-19-related $1.9 trillion "American Rescue Plan" and the infrastructure law, both unpopular with Republicans despite some bipartisan support for the latter, also would likely be scrutinized.

"There’s no doubt Republican lawmakers are going to pour over documents and all this spending will see unprecedented scrutiny,” said Amy Koch, a Republican strategist in Minnesota who helps state and federal candidates get elected.

Some Republicans have already signaled an appetite for impeaching Biden, with a group of four led by Gibbs filing articles of impeachment over immigration on the U.S. border with Mexico and for the way U.S. troops were removed from Afghanistan.

'There will be a lot of pressure on Kevin McCarthy'

Gibbs is joined by House Republicans Andy Biggs, Brian Babin and Randy Weber. Separately Marjorie Taylor Greene, a pro-Trump firebrand, filed articles of impeachment the day after Biden was sworn into office.

"There will be a lot of pressure on Kevin McCarthy, if he’s speaker, to pursue impeachment of Biden from day one. He may not have much of a choice if he wants to retain the title,” a Republican congressional staffer with ties to leadership said.

McCarthy is in line to succeed Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi if Republicans take over control of the chamber.

During the 2020 election, Biden's son, Hunter, became a target of Trump and Republicans, who alleged wrong-doing when he served on the board of a Ukraine energy company. A Ukraine review found no evidence.

“There will be a lot of this Hunter stuff, and a lot of it is going to be unfair to Biden, and a lot of it is going to be personal,” Painter predicted.

House Democrats twice impeached Trump, once over Ukraine and again for his actions ahead of the Jan. 6 riot, but he was acquitted by the Republican-controlled Senate both times.
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:26 AM
 
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Gallup: More Americans now identify with Republicans than Democrats

Biden's Build Back Better is working much as I anticipated!
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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I don't think the democrats actions in 2021 are necessarily bad enough to cause a red wave, especially if they suddenly start to go moderate and the media goes silent about wokeness, BLM, and the other unpopular fringe issues they embrace when elections are not on the line.

People just have too short of attention spans.
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Another former democrat here — it’s EMBARRASSING to be a dem these days … it’s no become the party of STUPID
A minority of radical leftists took over your party, but you'll get it back soon enough. Their agenda isn't consistent with our heritage. Just remember, we are all Americans first. If anyone is trying to tear that down, they are not part of our larger collective of moderate Americans from both sides of the aisle.

Their divide and conquer tactics have been exposed.
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:41 AM
 
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Censorship and vaccine mandates were the final nail in the coffin. Even radicals want the ability to 'choose' and have options.

Yes, that's what changed my mind. I find more in common now with Republicans. But I would never vote for Trump if they nominated him again. So. They should find another candidate more appealing to those in the center. Most people would agree to compromise on certain issues to end this pointless division. Not everyone is extremist.
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:44 AM
 
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Nope, they are no longer the Bush Republican party. Thank God! The Bush doctrine had a choke hold in that party since 1988 until 2016 and No Republican can say We had overall good results in foreign or domestic.

To say the Bushes were conservatives show how clueless they sound. Trump has been more conservative in governing compared to the 2 Bushes in judges and taxes and less wars and less nation building.


Trump took on the NATO spending and the military welfare while the 2 Bushes were like Santa Clause everyday for them. They never met a war or nation building they didn't like.
No fan of either Bush. Big fan of Barry Goldwater.

Integrity is hard to find in any politician or party these days.
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