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Old 04-04-2022, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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He's an actor and comedian, so he must appeal to western entertainers for free money.

 
Old 04-04-2022, 12:56 AM
 
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He's an actor and comedian, so he must appeal to western entertainers for free money.

Yes indeed - he is looking for each and every opportunity to ask for more and more money, always making a point that Ukraine is "fighting for the West, for the "free world."



Yeah right.
 
Old 04-04-2022, 12:59 AM
 
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Yes indeed - he is looking for each and every opportunity to ask for more and more money, always making a point that Ukraine is "fighting for the West, for the "free world."



Yeah right.
I mean they were forced to fight regardless. Since they’re being invaded and wanna be free from Russian tyranny…
 
Old 04-04-2022, 01:13 AM
 
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I mean they were forced to fight regardless. Since they’re being invaded and wanna be free from Russian tyranny…

They were constantly looking for money BEFORE they were "forced to fight."
And what "Russian tyranny" are you talking about exactly - I am not sure.

Ukraine was a free and separate state since 1991.

If being dependent on Russian economy ( since Ukraine didn't have its own gas as much as Russia did,) is what you call "tyranny," then this world is full of "tyranny and injustice" - yes, since some countries have natural resources and some don't.



So probably, Ukraine should have fought this "tyranny and injustice" starting with Qatar and Saudi Arabia instead.
 
Old 04-04-2022, 01:33 AM
 
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I mean they were forced to fight regardless. Since they’re being invaded and wanna be free from Russian tyranny…
Yes, exactly. The fact that they are fighting for democracy and freedom in Eastern Europe is not why they fight. They just fight do defend their country and their lives. The other part Europe and most of the US realize, which is why we help them.

It is one of the rare times it is both morally right and hugely beneficial to the free countries of the west to help Ukraine either expel Putin or be the biggest quagmire of the century for Russia. And historically Russia has deposed leaders who fail in military endeavors, and it’s not pretty. Putin may have to fake a win just to stay alive.
 
Old 04-04-2022, 01:36 AM
 
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Never thought i would see the day that the party of Reagan switched sides to a despot dictator KGB guy. What the heck happened? Bizzaro world.
Not anymore bizarre than the party of hippies supporting war, troop deployments, no-fly zones, lethal aid, defense contracts, defense spending, WW3, Ukraine neo-Nazis, and the harm of US troops for a non-NATO country..

Bizaro world indeed.

It must be hard for you to sleep at night, knowing you won't have US troops to sacrifice for your political agenda.
 
Old 04-04-2022, 02:15 AM
 
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Yes indeed - he is looking for each and every opportunity to ask for more and more money, always making a point that Ukraine is "fighting for the West, for the "free world."
Yeah right.
Agreed.


I'm a little surprised Zelensky was allowed to deliver a message-via video to the Grammy's, especially since he wasn't approved for the same at the Oscars.

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Old 04-04-2022, 02:44 AM
 
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I'm a little surprised Zelensky was allowed to deliver a message-via video to the Grammy's, especially since he wasn't approved for the same at the Oscars.
Different organizers. Not to us outside of the west coast, but within their sphere, VERY different. Oscars are super conservative, didn’t even take away Harvey Weinstein Oscars. Voters have a contingent of conservative actors and directors, small, but there.

Grammys is Musicians who are much more left leaning and progressive, even the older ones. Controversy is more welcome at the Grammy’s, traditionally.

Tony’s and Emmy’s are their own complicated mess.
 
Old 04-04-2022, 03:59 AM
 
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Not anymore bizarre than the party of hippies supporting war, troop deployments, no-fly zones, lethal aid, defense contracts, defense spending, WW3, Ukraine neo-Nazis, and the harm of US troops for a non-NATO country..

Bizaro world indeed.

It must be hard for you to sleep at night, knowing you won't have US troops to sacrifice for your political agenda.
Talk about over exaggerating.
 
Old 04-04-2022, 04:50 AM
 
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Was the Grammys on?
Gosh, darn....I missed it again this year
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