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Old 07-08-2022, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Did you not read that most women getting abortions are white (not black). Did you not read that most abortions are performed on women with some college or more? 64% fit the latter catagory.
The discussion was based on your claim that more poor women keep their babies. That is a different demographic. Of those who seek abortion, 75% are poor. Race and education are different topics. How many of those with "some college" would have to drop out if they continued the pregnancy?

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Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
You act like no one has family. You act like there's no. other. alternative. You're also completely ignoring the stats that show most abortions are done by those who can afford a baby.
Of those who seek abortion, 75% are poor. Source previously given.

 
Old 07-08-2022, 07:28 PM
 
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You are the one who inferred punishment when you said:

"If people won't use common sense in their "freedom" decisions then they should be held responsible for their mistakes"

Being held responsible for the mistake of getting pregnant would be being forced to go through pregnancy and childbirth. What else could you have meant?
You twisted it to mean punishment not I. If one gets pregnant via carelessness then the consequences/outcome is going through pregnancy and childbirth. Don't want the baby give it up for adoption then.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 07:29 PM
 
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The discussion was based on your claim that more poor women keep their babies. That is a different demographic. Of those who seek abortion, 75% are poor. Race and education are different topics. How many of those with "some college" would have to drop out if they continued the pregnancy?



Of those who seek abortion, 75% are poor. Source previously given.
Did you ignore from the link I provided that it is mostly white, college educated women who get abortions?
 
Old 07-08-2022, 08:06 PM
 
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They often have terminated the parental rights, but the foster families don't always adopt. They get money for the child when the child is still a foster child. It depends on the case whether or not they terminate the rights. In many other cases the rights are never terminated so that the state can double dip. They make the birth parents pay child support for children they might not even get to see and the state gets federal money for each child classified as a foster child.
Judging by what I've seen on the lists a goodly number are not legally available for adoption.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Did you ignore from the link I provided that it is mostly white, college educated women who get abortions?
The initial topic was income. Seventy five percent of women who seek abortion are poor. I said nothing about race or education. My response was to your post about women keeping their pregnancies. They are different metrtics.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 08:31 PM
 
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Pregnancy and childbirth are punishment when the woman is forced to go through that process. In other words, she was denied an abortion at the very beginning.

A woman can become attached emotionally after carrying a baby for 9 months. That doesn't mean she suddenly has enough money to raise a child or has the personality or intelligence to be a good parent.
You may be surprised. Not all women get "emotionally attached". Many lack maternal instincts.

If she doesn't have "enough money to raise a child or has the personality or intelligence to be a good parent", then she should do the right thing and put up the baby for adoption. Or, perhaps, the bio father may want to raise the child.

Who is denying anyone an abortion? Get a grip.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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You may be surprised. Not all women get "emotionally attached". Many lack maternal instincts.

If she doesn't have "enough money to raise a child or has the personality or intelligence to be a good parent", then she should do the right thing and put up the baby for adoption. Or, perhaps, the bio father may want to raise the child.

Who is denying anyone an abortion? Get a grip.
Be careful about jumping into the middle of a conversation
 
Old 07-08-2022, 08:44 PM
 
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And apparently there are hundreds of thousands of parents wanting to adopt. By gosh, maybe we've stumbled on a solvable problem here. No, killing the baby is much easier.
There are already hundreds of thousands of kids waiting to be adopted. Where are these parents you speak about who want them.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 11:26 PM
 
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Be careful about jumping into the middle of a conversation
What, exactly, are you yammering about? You make no sense
 
Old 07-09-2022, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Tell that to the women who don't insist that the man wear one. No one normally forces them to have sex with guys like that.
Bingo. I’ve met plenty of women who said “hell no” when there wasn’t a condom around (big stores were closed, it was very late).

So I either had to go try to find some random 7/11 shady corner shop, or I wasn’t have fun that night.

This isn’t rocket science folks, condoms are 98% effective. They’re cheaper than raising kids and abortions.
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